Hilton renovations going before the BoR next week

Maybe just maybe the employer finds productive value in the employees they find with a degree (the whole well rounded part that makes up half the degree) regardless of major.

Again, with your thinking we shouldnt fund high school.

Most people don't need calculus or even much math beyond basic algebra either to live their daily lives\do their jobs. Or half the stuff we did in HS english classes when we spent a large portion of time analyzing literature. Or most of the history we learned, that clearly has no effects on most of our productivity as workers (as if adding cogs in the machine is the only benefit society could ever achieve). But we do all these things, and almost universally agree that it is a good thing we provide kids with this kind of rounded education.

Given your general tilt regarding such things, I am surprised you are into defending education as much as you are. Our current system mostly benefits employers because they either (1.) get trained workers or (2.) have a convenient way to sort "good" and "bad" workers from each other using education as a signal at virtually no cost to them. The costs, however, are born by individuals, families, and the public purse, like state governments.

All the risk and costs are on "the little guy" or public accounts and all the benefits are on what you normally consider those who need the help the least with businesses.

Frankly, I think we should stop subsidizing either the training of workers or the search for good workers that corporate America should be paying for on its own.

I would not "cancel" high school. I would just be more flexible if teenagers wanted to work instead, especially with the consent of their families, and/or replace most of the college preparatory coursework with vocational training. Why make a student who is either already leaning towards learning a trade spend 3-4 years on college prep classes, such as the history, literature, geometry, physical science, and calculus that you acknowledged is useless for all but a very small quantity of workers, wait until they are 18 or 19 to start that training when they could just go ahead and do it when they were 14-17 and start working sooner?

There are a small number of nerds who do benefit in the long-term from learning such science, advanced mathematics, or delving into the humanities. But that is a punishingly small cohort of students, and most people will barely remember any of it a decade later.

It used to be "universally agreed" that the Sun revolved around the Earth, too. Conventional wisdom is exactly what you want to buck in looking for market inefficiencies.

We are over-leveraged in education as a society right now.
 
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Wow. They still sell them. Of course, ours looked quite a bit different because the wood was all beaten up from being raised and lowered for decades. And many of the letters were discolored, jagged, and mismatched from sets acquired throughout the years. In other words, it had awesome character.

Funny, but I can't find any photos of an old one. Maybe they didn't have cameras back then. I may try to dig out a yearbook this weekend and see if there is a photo there.
 
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Wow. They still sell them. Of course, ours looked quite a bit different because the wood was all beaten up from being raised and lowered for decades. And many of the letters were discolored, jagged, and mismatched from sets acquired throughout the years. In other words, it had awesome character.

Funny, but I can't find any photos of an old one. Maybe they didn't have cameras back then. I may try to dig out a yearbook this weekend and see if there is a photo there.


They had cameras, the world was just black and white. Wonder why God decided to invent color so late in the process.
 
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I love how this goes from talking about degrees and philosophies about their usefulness to someone talking about walking tacos..
 
So taking the $25M amount into account I assume this does will not include any parking lot resurfacing. Parking lots are the worst thing in the world to spend money on, but when its needed its needed.
 
So the public spends a bunch of money and you spend a bunch of time/money getting a degree for an opportunity that necessarily comes from somebody else.

The degree that you have does not add to your actual productivity as a worker.

Virtually no social benefit, lots of social cost.

Sounds like a bad social investment.
If you got nothing out of college other than things directly in your degree field you were doing college wrong.
 
I love how this goes from talking about degrees and philosophies about their usefulness to someone talking about walking tacos..

Welcome to CF -- particularly anything involving the BoR.

I'm pretty sure walking tacos have more relevance to the thread topic (Hilton renovations going before the BOR) than the efficacy of higher education availability.
 
I love how this goes from talking about degrees and philosophies about their usefulness to someone talking about walking tacos..

Concourse renovations (thus the walking tacos) was the original subject Sig and Alarson derailed it into a benefits of higher education. No harm it's just another day on CF.
 

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