Firing CPR is a big mistake

[DoctorUncle]

You're a big mistake.

Sure, he wet the bed... But he put the ball in the hands of our best players. He took us to three bowls, had one season where we were a 5 yard wide open pass away from bowling and this season where we were three bounces away from bowling. That is unprecedented in ISU history. Sure, we had two bad seasons. The players love the guy and we were vastly improved this season. Are we really going to find another guy who loves the school and is dedicated to the job? I think that they should have at least waited another week instead of the knee jerk reaction. I am equally not happy about the tweet from Mangino and hate to see him proved right. Just don't like the feel of this all around. We should pay a heck of a lot of attention to what Lazard and Warren think. I was really on the fire CPR bandwagon at one point this season. Now it just doesn't feel right to replace him.

 

[CyInDFW]

OP appears to not live anywhere near Ames so season tickets are most likely not an option.

I think you evaluate the situation a lot differently when you are burning Saturdays and $$$ every fall to witness this first-hand vs watching it from afar and your main investment is 3 hrs in front of a TV.

It doesn’t mean the OP doesn’t care or isn’t’ passionate. I think it just means he is not evaluating based on the same experiences as those of us who are on the ground. Ie….whether or not to renew his season tickets next year (or skipped over half the game this year) as apathy was starting to erode the “active” fan’s enthusiasm. This isn’t the perspective the OP is evaluating this situation and thus why he is looking at this much differently than the majority.

Just because he doesn't live in Ames doesn't mean his opinion matters any less than yours. I live in Dallas, do you know whether or not I donate money to ISU, in what amount, to what departments? Congrats on being a season ticket holder, it makes you no more important than anyone else.

 

[MartyFine]

Firing Greg McDermott = huge mistake

 

[cycloneML]

Loveable guy but out of gas. ISU was overly patient with him. McCarney had much shorter leash. I noticed cpr did not thank President Leath.

 

[allfourcy]

Loveable guy but out of gas. ISU was overly patient with him. McCarney had much shorter leash. I noticed cpr did not thank President Leath.

yeah, noticed that too, but Geoffrey was the guy when he was hired, so maybe he never got that close with Leath. Then again, maybe it was purposely done for a reason. We'll never know.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Firing Greg McDermott = huge mistake

Totally...just think what we would have done with All-American, All-World future 1st round draft pick Doug Mcdermo.....oh wait.

 

[dmclone]

What I know is this...for a fact....
A. We're $4.5 million worse off than we were Saturday.
B. Given some recent pay developments we're going to pay the next coach more than CPR...only less if it's a total uninspiring hire.
C. We're probably not getting an experienced HC.
D. We're not getting anyone as loyal as CPR...that HC doesn't exist.
E. There is a high probability we're going to get a coach that won't win any more games than CPR did statistically. History says that's almost guaranteed.
F. We're not going to change any of the major issues we face. Geography. Budgets. Recruiting base of old white people. National media attention. Top 20 conference opponents on a weekly basis with 9 conference games + a rejuvenated Iowa.

So in Summary.

ISU football sucks, it has always sucked, and it will always suck so just be happy with your coach that can win 2-3 games a year because he's a nice loyal guy that talks a great game and loves to see himself on TV.

BTW-I'm willing to guess that KSU has just as old and just as white recruiting base. We know Iowa does. Nebraska, Utah, etc. It's time to quit making excuses for being losers.

 

[xr4ticlone]

Bill Snyder may well be one of the 10 best FOOTBALL coaches to ever have lived. And I'm dead serious.

You realize that KSU was the ONLY school we have a winning record against even AFTER Bill Snyder? That's how bad KSU was....and probably will be again hopefully sooner than later.

I'd hire 70 Y/O Bill Snyder tomorrow.

But sure...if you know of a top .1% FB HC available that will come in and be loyal to ISU like Snyder has to KSU...**** let's hire that dude!!! I'm sure they're are tons of those guys just dying for the shot to be in Ames.

 

[CyBobby]

It's a much bigger margin for error than you think. Paul Rhoads tenure was filled with a lot of error.

The last 3 yrs of the Paul Rhoads Era was just one big error with 8 wins and 28 losses.....

Jamie Pollard: "It's just time for a change." I Agree Jamie...Thee Rhoads era had run out of energy.

 

[4score]

Yep, it is like being put on probation at work and then showing up the next monday drunk smoking a joint with a hooker under your arm. Almost like you want to get fired.

Are they hiring.

 

[weR138]

You're right...I'm out of state. I watch religiously but I'll admit that FB isn't my biggest interest.

Living in TX has opened my eyes a little. I think we're all aware of the limitations ISU has from a historical standpoint...but I think the BIGGEST limitation is geographic right now. Playing in the TX centric B12 and trying to pull talent to Iowa is Mt. Everest. Playing 9 conference games and Iowa is a death sentence for any coach given the talent ISU can put on the field.

I can be mad at PR, I can acknowledge he's not a Bill Snyder type coach...but few are. What I can also see is the players love him, his passion is intense and real, and his loyalty is unquestionable. I believe that we had some real issues when it came to assistants...some cancers, some bad choices, and some poor recruiters. Rhoads was IMHO correcting most of that. Sure he learned on the job...but I've got some bad news for you folks...90% chance we're about to get a new coach that will be either a first time HC or a first time HC of a major program. They're going to be drinking from the fire hose too...without 7 years of experience.

I think this team will go to a bowl next year. I think it would have gone with or without CPR.

What I know is this...for a fact....
A. We're $4.5 million worse off than we were Saturday.
B. Given some recent pay developments we're going to pay the next coach more than CPR...only less if it's a total uninspiring hire.
C. We're probably not getting an experienced HC.
D. We're not getting anyone as loyal as CPR...that HC doesn't exist.
E. There is a high probability we're going to get a coach that won't win any more games than CPR did statistically. History says that's almost guaranteed.
F. We're not going to change any of the major issues we face. Geography. Budgets. Recruiting base of old white people. National media attention. Top 20 conference opponents on a weekly basis with 9 conference games + a rejuvenated Iowa.

All fair points but at some point there has to be hope of at least a bowl game, right?

Also, I think you're wrong about D. There is a coach out there somewhere who wants to do exactly what BS did, doesn't mean he has any connection to the state of Iowa or ISU...he just wants to build, own and enjoy his program. Not saying that's who we hire but he's out there. I think Kill was that guy for Minnesota.

 

[CYKOFAN]

The last 3 yrs of the Paul Rhoads Era was just one big error with 8 wins and 28 losses.....

Jamie Pollard: "It's just time for a change." I Agree Jamie...Thee Rhoads era had run out of energy.

That's a little over a 20% winning percentage. Even when you include CPR's best early years his winning percentage is still well under our historical average so he was not even performing to that level and as JP said, trending lower. We all wish it had worked out but JP had no choice but to make a change.