A quick check down/dump off would even be nice to see.
I realize it usually 'looks' more open than it is as it's covered but a quick one on one situation seems better than waiting for long developing routes to take form.
Explaining the Run Game / OL ( A bit long, sorry)
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A quick check down/dump off would even be nice to see.
I realize it usually 'looks' more open than it is as it's covered but a quick one on one situation seems better than waiting for long developing routes to take form.
I agree completely. The dump off is there a lot of the time, but Rocco doesn't look for it.
The broadcast mentioned that Dylan Barret had ankle surgery a few weeks ago. He played, but obviously still healing from that.
Our offense is very predictable based upon who is on the field and the formation. Everybody and their dog knows when we are going to run the ball. I want to defend our O-line, our pass blocking is average to a little above average, but we don't really move people on run blocking very consistantly. Where is our violent/mean attitude that our O-line coach preaches for run blocking. Throughout the game I tried to focus on the linemen and too many times the defender gets under our o-line pads and we lose leverage and we can't create any sort of seam for the running back to slide through. our tight ends need to go out for passes because they are not very good run blockers. short quick passes to our tight ends, curls and outs for 5-7 yards vs. 1 yard runs up the middle on 1st down plays. that way the ball gets out quick before D-line hands can get in the air to knock passes down. If we are going to have the RPO option action, then do some short passes to keep the defense guessing a little. A lot of our success in the 2nd half came from us changing things up from our normal predictable formations and play calls. This isn't rocket science coaches.
I think it comes down to the case that the offense has adopted the same game strategy approach as Heacock has used with the defense -
Play absolute vanilla/basic game the first half. Set up some plays for the 2nd half by showing formations, etc. Don't break out of that approach in the 1st half unless you are completely hosed (Kansas Game).
Then open things up in the 2nd half.
This prevents the opposing coordinators from adjusting to your plan at half time.
Play absolute vanilla/basic game the first half. Set up some plays for the 2nd half by showing formations, etc. Don't break out of that approach in the 1st half unless you are completely hosed (Kansas Game).
Then open things up in the 2nd half.
This prevents the opposing coordinators from adjusting to your plan at half time.
This.
I don’t know how to break it to some of you guys who keep moaning, but this is probably the best OL we’ve had since Seneca’s junior year.
And, news flash, more than one are playing hurt. Or not playing at all.
The run part of our RPO really sucks and is forced into bad reads, by the coaches. I think this accounts for about half or more of the really bad runs on 1st down. Got to prove we are willing to run into a stacked box to make the pass portion of the RPO work.
Against the Bearcats we saw Burkle step up at the TE position. That's a big step forward for ISU's offense if Brahmer continues to be out. The nice thing about Brahmer was he could stretch defenses down the middle. That has really hurt ISU's offense in attacking opposing defense in the 15-20 yard window.
What was great to see in the 2nd half was the staff going with more 3-4? WR sets. IMO this is critical in getting opposing defenses to back off a bit. When we go with a 4 receiver attack of Noel, Higgins, Burkle and Klotz doubt opposing defenses fear getting beat over the top by other than maybe Noel. I am hopeful we see Overby, Eskildsen and Brown on the field a bit more on passing downs than such a heavy load of 2 TE sets. It would be fun if Overby has a bigger play package this week with the return home.
I have been BEGGING for screens and draws for some weeks now. That's what you do when teams are being overly aggressive defensively. Look at UCF - it was all QB draws (and scrambles) rather than RB, but that's what worked.
I wonder how much Braymer being out is a problem? TE is the QBs best friend. Burkle & Co are playing, but they just aren't as dynamic (fast).
Probably not a coincidence the timing of our run game improvement...
Cincinnati Star Dontay Corleone Gets Injured Against Iowa State in Second Half
CINCINNATI — The Bearcats lost Dontay Corleone from Saturday's game in the second half.
The Godfather went down with an injury in the third quarter and the TV broadcast reported he tried to go on the exercise bike to warm it up but eventually went back to the locker room and did not return.
We need to stop running the damn ball up the middle every time and get it to the outside and run Becht more. You are welcome.
Although I'm no RB expert, with Abu my vibe is he needs a "Sama Seam." Block well enough for a little daylight and a good first step or two, and he can burst.
He doesn't appear to be best at out-sprinting on the edge w/ a slower-developing sweep, or having to Montgomery his way out of contact in the backfield or near LOS.
He was their best interior lineman and was giving us fits when he was in the game. Guy will play on Sundays
After the game Saturday on the post game with Harklau I literally heard Coach Campbell say that his game plan was to be up front and physical with Cincy on the line in the first half and to wear them down. I mean I quite literally heard those words. So.... don't take this wrong OP, but I think the coaches know everything you wrote already. They have their plans and it don't really matter if we like them or not. I will let the 34-17 score speak for itself.
Lol. Not just that but in general , yes. Basically, protect your core plays by having other plays built off of them. That's what drove my crazy about the diamond formation. Like, WTF? In theory, new craps nice. Its shiny etc.
But at the same time... develop what we have, new random formations aren't the answer. Better protecting what we already do is. And I think Bruns kinda made the same point
Oh, I don't doubt that they know it - but I do sometimes wonder if they accept it. Cause we don't do it. Its hard wearing people down when you are averaging less than a yard a carry.
That's my point. Sure, it's great having a plan. But then when the plan isn't working, be willing change said plan. Don't wait till half time all the time to adjust. Cause sometimes, its too late by that point in time
My thoughts after having watched the game 3 times now:
Something in our strategy is a dead giveaway to what play it is. Not even personnel & formation. Some movement by the guards (think they usually are the keys for the middle LBs & safeties) or something else, but the other teams are flying in to make their fits & they ain't run blitzes. Think we tip our pitches some way & those that know, "know" - hence the outcome this past Saturday & the bowl game last year against Memphis.
There were numerous times our OL plain whiffed on their blocks against defenders directly across the LOS, not even 2nd level. Again, don't know if we are tipping our pitches or if the OL are indecisive due to it being an RPO, or whatever, these occurrences are glaring.
The team doesn't carry out the full play at all times; therefore, a lot of our play-actions do not resemble running plays enough from the get-go, so defense read pass far too quickly. Having play-action resembling actual running plays is an art, and we are still using crayons and not staying inside the lines.
We don't utilize RBs out of the backfield very well as pass receivers. Angle routes, wheel routes, or simply check downs out of the backfield could be so effective, and with Jackson potentially game breaking. However, we just don't attempt them, let along draw plays. RB-screens are rarely used.
Something in our strategy is a dead giveaway to what play it is. Not even personnel & formation. Some movement by the guards (think they usually are the keys for the middle LBs & safeties) or something else, but the other teams are flying in to make their fits & they ain't run blitzes. Think we tip our pitches some way & those that know, "know" - hence the outcome this past Saturday & the bowl game last year against Memphis.
There were numerous times our OL plain whiffed on their blocks against defenders directly across the LOS, not even 2nd level. Again, don't know if we are tipping our pitches or if the OL are indecisive due to it being an RPO, or whatever, these occurrences are glaring.
The team doesn't carry out the full play at all times; therefore, a lot of our play-actions do not resemble running plays enough from the get-go, so defense read pass far too quickly. Having play-action resembling actual running plays is an art, and we are still using crayons and not staying inside the lines.
We don't utilize RBs out of the backfield very well as pass receivers. Angle routes, wheel routes, or simply check downs out of the backfield could be so effective, and with Jackson potentially game breaking. However, we just don't attempt them, let along draw plays. RB-screens are rarely used.
