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The higher potential options were probably locked up in the November signing period. Many of the spring signees are lower ceiling guys brought in to fill a gap after losing out on better prospects.

Except nobody would have been recruiting him early enough to sign in November. During the November signing period, he would have only played in a few games at Indian Hills. Which makes this commitment even more impressive. He's only played about 15 games in his career.
 

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I love Iowa State but Xavier is a better program.


Xavier tournaments since 2007 = 9
ISU tournaments since 2007 = 5
Xavier sweet 16 since 2007 = 5
ISU sweet 16 since 2007 = 2

I guess I should clarify what I meant with this. There are numerous ways to rate a program, and different time periods to do it over (i.e., UCLA is definitely an all-time power in college basketball, but not so much in the past ten years compared to, say, Kentucky or Kansas have been, depending on your period of reference). I just went and glanced at the SRS ratings (a team rating based on point differential and opponents' point differential, so ratings based on W-L, margin of victory, and strength of schedule) from here...

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/

Going back 6-7 years since the start of the Fred era in Ames, well...

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We have been in the 13-20 range, and above 16 since the Kane-Ejim year. SRS actually likes this team quite a bit given its losses were all very close save Iowa, though I would imagine this will start to come down with some hard Big 12 games coming. That rating is very incomplete for this year with the unfinished season we have yet.

Compared to...

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Looks rather similar to me. Yes, Xavier has had a little more luck in the tournament than we have, but, come on, the NCAA tournament is kind of random once you get there. You have single elimination games between teenagers playing in weird gyms, in front of weird crowds, with weird officials. Silly stuff happens -- that is the fun of it. This is a better measure of overall program quality over the course of a long season.

And it says that... we're pretty even. We might be a little ahead on this measure. We're both a top tier school in a good power conference, though not *the* power in the conference ('Nova and KU, of course, unfortunately with the second one). We're both likely to make the tournament over this era, maybe win a few games, and definitely give the Top 10 some scares and even come away with some victories, more often than not, when we have a shot.

Hence my comparison that we're similar/a little better than them, on this metric.
 
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I wasn't a fan of letting Ernst go, but apparently there were some behind the scenes issues. He's going to probably turn out like Justin Hamilton.
 

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The early reports where people pull **** out of their ass. You haven't read those early reports?

A paysite had info from a Tennessee teammate claiming he was one of softest players on the team. While it's TBD what he'll accomplish at ISU, I wouldn't say citing a former teammate is "pulling **** out of ass"
 
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A paysite had info from a Tennessee teammate claiming he was one of softest players on the team. While it's TBD what he'll accomplish at ISU, I wouldn't say citing a former teammate is "pulling **** out of ass"


Yeah because internet message boards are incredibly reliable.
 

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I was confused by keeping Carter and dumping Ernst from the get go. Everyone on here that expressed confussion was sort of blasted as thinking "they knew more than the coaches".

Well, Ernst just got an offer from a top 25 program that as has been mentioned in this thread has had substaintally more success over the last 10 years than ISU. I still bums me out Ernst left.
 

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Definitely. I mean we do want to go small this year but his refusal to trust bigs is an issue.
I mean Holden only averages 1 more ppg than our freshman guard Long. Our bigs aren't that amazing this year. Young is still raw, Holden was a miss, and Bowie is a toss up. I would put more stock into our bigs aren't that good instead of him not trusting them.
 
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The post I read was from a Tennessee pay site admin citing a Tennessee player. If Chris Williams had a post citing someone on this ISU team, some people would take it as word of God.
Didn't CW say something very bold like Holden would be better than McKay? I thought someone asked him that during mailbag Monday.
 

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The post I read was from a Tennessee pay site admin citing a Tennessee player. If Chris Williams had a post citing someone on this ISU team, some people would take it as word of God.

Actually I wouldn't and people probably shouldn't.
 

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