There’s a little thing called suspension of disbelief which is essential to enjoying movies.
Dune Universe Thread
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There’s a little thing called suspension of disbelief which is essential to enjoying movies.
Many of these have easy answers. I'll address one. Chani knew he had a choice to enslave the Galaxy in the holy war and he chose power.
Saw it last night. Thought it was extremely well done. Heard audible gasps when some of the secrets were revealed. 10/10.
It was pretty. I did enjoy Stilgars fanatisism.
Why can't it just make sense? In the dune mini series, they use their stealth to attack harkonen without loosing men. They sabotage the harvester, (that doesn't have insect legs and tracks for propulsion) and then steal the thopters so they can aquire more military hardware for their rebellion.
Maybe their effectiveness was too good, but if you were sabotaging the harvester with a sticky bomb it would show why the harkonen would have men on the ground trying to make sure that didn't happen and give you a reason not to just destroy it with your very effective laser.
But what was the alternative? It wasn't Fremen being free and them being happy together, or justice being done.
Why mary Irulan at all? All the houses reject his assension.... So.... How about just not marry her and go on a jihad. All the sardakar are dead, so.... Just Fremen alone going to take the whole universe.
Irulan is a piece on the board. She's also a part of the Bene Gesserit so Paul's foresight knows she is important to his cause. As far as if there was even a choice, of course there was. He chose his legacy over Chani and also the 'white savior' route. Paul may not have had many options but manipulating everyone through the prophecy was one she was always against.
I was maybe the most critical person of the first Dune in this thread. I thought it didn't make sense at times and I thought some choices in it were kind of incoherant.
I don't feel that way about this one at all. Sounds like you and I disagree. There are honestly pretty easy answers to your questions, but I doubt you'd find them satisfying so I'll save my time.
Whatever you do, don't go see the new Twister movie. Your rant over that will be about 20 pages long.
Why didn't Tarkin seal off the small thermal exhaust port? Is he stupid?
Why didn't the Nazis just shoot Indiana and Marian when they had one of a million chances?
These movies just had a lot of problems.
How is she important in a fallen house with no army, no economy, nothing...? So what she Bene Gesserit? Why does Paul care about those people? Why would they do anything for him at this point?
Without the guild in this film, do we even know why anyone cares about the spice, beyond it has something to do with some people getting money?
She is the daughter of an emperor with no sons.
Wonder if marrying her lends significant legitimacy to your claim to the throne...
It's well established the spice is the lifeblood of the Imperium's economy.
So you actually watched both movies and it was somehow lost on you that spice gives humans essentially psionic abilities? You don't think that would make it pretty valuable and sought after?
Where do they explain that? If anything the reverend mother ceremony on another planet might not use spice, we just know it did here
But the claim was rejected by all the houses... They said that in the movie. So who is left to care he did it?
I would argue that contextually it's pretty obvious the spice gives prescience at the very least. You know, how Paul starts having visions of the future when he's exposed to the spice. I've talked to friends who knew nothing about Dune going in who picked that up pretty easily. I havent had a chance to see part 2, but I would guess there is lots of additional ways to tell. Well made movies don't need long exposition dumps to explain every detail.
Because spice controls the ability to travel beyond your own locality in the universe. Can you imagine the power it would unlock if we could travel to other galaxies?
As far as the Bene Gesserit, Paul is using them to control his influence. He knows the outcomes. At this point they're all just pieces in his story. They intended to build a mind to shape the universe. He's here and whatever he deems necessary is absolute.
That is also what Chani is upset about. He chose that over love.
Yeah.... But they didn't determine that all of civilization breaks down without it. I mean... Those things are nice, but without making a deal about the navigators going blind it's not nearly as big of a deal.
The emperor is also made to be covering up his shame not making sure the spice flows.
Maybe that's the point, then all the other houses even can rebel against paul, spice is nice, not essential.
The emperor is also made to be covering up his shame not making sure the spice flows.
No they don't have to tell you but they don't really show it being used off world.
Does that make everything ok? Dune 2000 had less holes in it.
