4th and 3 or less anywhere on the field, don't punt. 4th and 7 or more, don't punt if we are past our 40.
DON'T PUNT vs. Baylor: The numbers back this up
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But then what special teams kicker will Rhoads throw under the bus for the reason we lost by 60?
Excellent analysis and confirms what most of are thinking. Pull all the stops out - nothing to lose.
I think this is the biggest pain-point for the fan-base right now. We believe that there is not much to lose at this point and still CPR chooses to punt, almost like he is playing to not lose as bad, rather than playing to win....
Even in NFL games statisticians say coaches punt more often than makes sense statistically. I'm not sure there has ever been an NFL game where the teams are more lopsided in offensive proficiency as KU/Baylor or ISU/Baylor this year.
I say no punts past the 40, if we're inside our own 40 only punt if it's longer than 4th and 4.
I say no punts past the 40, if we're inside our own 40 only punt if it's longer than 4th and 4.
Speaking of punting and CPR, I've been tailgating in G7 for a while. One of my favorite license plates was the HOT4CPR van. They are apparently no longer HOT4CPR, and have replaced that plate with PUNTERU.
RIP HOT4CPR.
RIP HOT4CPR.
I don't get the devil's advocacy here because didn't the bolded part describe ISU perfectly? I mean how can we not be lumped in with one of the bad teams they've already played?
I'm waiting for someone to try it, a little surprised no one has yet. might hold us to only 500 yards offense that way, and 80 points
A 2-0 loss due to forfeit would probably be the lowest points Baylor has scored in a long time.
Honestly, while I think this is going to work for us against the other teams in the conference, I'm not sold on it being effective for us against a team like Baylor. It didn't help Tech's offense against them, which is way more efficient and talented than ours. I think Tech was only down by 2 possessions when they stopped punting but Baylor put up maybe 3 more possessions on their lead during that.
I just don't see us in that many situations where we're able to convert on 4th and actually succeed to keep the drive going. Our defense isn't going to stop Baylor. Does this only up their end of the score? I would think that's likely the case.
I just don't see us in that many situations where we're able to convert on 4th and actually succeed to keep the drive going. Our defense isn't going to stop Baylor. Does this only up their end of the score? I would think that's likely the case.
That's a good point -- but I'm talking about taking that into consideration for stats accumulated so far, as it applies to how incredible the numbers are.
Tech tried it and it failed. Also to those saying don't punt if we're beyond our 40.. The thing is our offense has to actually get there first.
While I completely agree with what JW is saying here, I have a much bigger problem with some of the 4th and 1-2 punts in previous games that the Cyclones actually had a chance to win, like Iowa, and Toledo. Even the TCU game may have stayed closer a little longer by going for it on 4th and short. In addition, if you have going for it before you get to 4th down you can try and run plays that need a shorter average. I honestly would like to see the Iowa approach, two TEs a fullback and Lanning at QB. Just see if you can mythotically grind out a drive and throw in a few short passes to make the Bears play some pass defense with their LBers.
About the only thing I agreed with you and Whitver on the call in show was why punt. What is the different if TCU scored in two minutes from their 20 or midfield.Same applies with Baylor
