Don't Expect Many If Any Changes In Offense

[LeaningCy]

So in essence, we need to be Iowa. And this came from Hassel? Perfect. Nothing to see here. Glad I didn't waste my time listening.

We already are Iowa but with ****** special teams.

 

[cayin]

One thing that Ben Bruns has pointed out after 3 separate games this season, is the offensive line was getting to the second level to fast leaving D-linemen in position to make the play. The first time I heard it, I thought, well, that seems fixable. But then it kept happening. How does a power 5 division one coaching staff not get that simple fundamental fixed?

 

[ruxCYtable]

I've heard otherwise and that people are walking on egg shells in the football offices.

 

[MeanDean]

Attn: TCU Defense

Don't expect any new wrinkles. Just watch old film. Yawn.

 

[cyclones500]

I listened to Monday's Two Guys Named Chris and Hassel nailed it. There are no issues with how Matt Campbell wants us to play offensively. BUT...if you are going to play that way - low possession, mid-teens scoring - you MUST be elite at the little things. And, we all know, ISU is the opposite of elite while Iowa is very good to elite in the margins. If you are going to play Campbell's offensive style you must have:

1. Excellent punting (we suck)
2. Excellent FG kicking (we suck)
3. Limit turnovers and mistakes (we suck)
4. Limit penalties, especially "simple" ones like false starts (we suck)
5. Get turnovers from your defense that position the offense well (we aren't very good).
6. Get scores from your defense (we suck)

And that's just to name a few. Every single one of these is amplified when you are playing games in the teens. So Matt Campbell is crazy if he thinks we play this way and be terrible in the margins.

To me, we need structural changes because we have demonstrated for years we really suck in the margins. Until Matt realizes this, we are going to be 7-6 with NFL talent or 4-8 with a Top 10 defense.

Good basic roundup.

It's a bummer this season especially since we're in the 'we suck' in most categories ... maybe not every game, but enough that it's extremely challenging to establish any consistency.

It's possible to have success with the system and be marginal in some of those categories, from season to season, but definitely can't be the majority.

 

[madguy30]

I've heard otherwise and that people are walking on egg shells in the football offices.

Which depending on what that really means, may not be a good thing for the program.

 

[CloneIce]

Here are some quotes from a DM Register article today from CMC regarding the offense:

"With Iowa State last in the Big 12 most statistical categories and ranked 110th nationally in scoring, there’s a natural inclination to wonder if something is structurally or philosophically wrong with the Cyclones’ offense.

That, though, is not what coach Matt Campbell says he sees when he watches film of his team.

“With that, you see inept, an inability to function,” Campbell said of a hypothetical fundamentally flawed group. “Those aren’t our issues. Where we’re at offensively, it’s been the inconsistency.”

"“It’s not the call. It’s not the play. They are all there,” Campbell said. “It’s the execution of it. Those are things that continue to lead to inconsistency. That’s the hard thing about it and the frustrating thing about it.

Even has the players spouting the exact same thing. Per Noel - "“It wasn’t the play call. It was just us executing the play, being able to pick up the right blocks and do our right assignments to be able to execute that play.” Also - "“Knowing that it’s the execution part, knowing that it’s something we can fix and hold ourselves accountable for is in a way a good thing because we know we can go back and fix it.”

CMC is doubling/tripling down on his offense and play-calling. Given this, I expect to see little change for next year (staff, offense plays, scoring, and ultimately record). I guess he has now watched the tape and has decided it is not his system that is at fault. Unsurprising to say the least.

Iowa State football's Matt Campbell says execution, nothing structural, is hampering offense

Iowa State football coach Matt Campbell says it's not play calling that's holding the Cyclones back.

www.desmoinesregister.com

When we run short yardage plays that never work out of the shotgun… yes, that’s the scheme and coaching.

 

[ClonerJams]

Matt isn't going to publically throw coaches under the bus. I'd wager a large sum of money there will at least be a new OL coach.

 

[Lineup]

Manning has to go or watch for a empty Jack Trice

 

[BCClone]

Manni9ng has to go or watch for a empty Jack Trice

I think you are using hyperbole very thick here. We have Iowa at home. We start the year 3-0 this year and we will have people at Jack still. It’s just what the weather and games 5-7 do that will determine if it trails off or stays up.

 

[goody2012]

“It’s the execution…”

Well, where the hell does the blame go for their lack of progress? Are they really blaming kids for not improving?

It’s the “execution” as they finally install a qb sneak against Texas Tech. What about all the offside penalties by the OL? A weakness for years.

We now know that special teams issues are the KIDS fault. Lack of execution?

The lack of responsibility by CMC is disgusting.

If you have to execute PERFECTLY maybe it's not a great offensive scheme. A good scheme allows for a margin of error and still be successful. Appears ours does not allow any at all.

 

[awd4cy]

Why don’t we wait to see if Campbell is even here on Sunday before worrying about what changes won’t be made?

Where would he go? Back to the Mac?

 

[Stewo]

Player execution is a coaching issue. 100%. With that, I'm really trying to not assume Campbell won't make off-season changes at this point. He has to see how much of a mess the offense is. It's not well managed and kids aren't learning the fundamentals, let alone developing.

 

[3TrueFans]

Player execution is a coaching issue. 100%.

This claim is too simplistic, some mistakes in execution can be mostly coaching errors, but others may be on the player. Certainly there are times in every game where players just do the wrong thing, contrary to what they have been coached to do.

 

[davegilbertson]

This claim is too simplistic, some mistakes in execution can be mostly coaching errors, but others may be on the player. Certainly there are times in every game where players just do the wrong thing, contrary to what they have been coached to do.

the patterns and consistency of the errors fall on coaches. unless you've completely lost the locker room, which again, is on coaches.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Need to be Iowa or Kansas State Bill Snyder era.

That doesn't mean run what they run, etc. You just need to be really fundamentally sound as a foundation if you're going to play how CMC wants to play at a place like ISU.

He needs to make better in game decisions. He has been awful.

 

[Stewo]

This claim is too simplistic, some mistakes in execution can be mostly coaching errors, but others may be on the player. Certainly there are times in every game where players just do the wrong thing, contrary to what they have been coached to do.

In year 7 with essentially the same coaching staff, the offense has the same problems on repeat. Of course players are going to make mistakes, but the consistency of the same issues is a huge red mark for the coaching staff.

 

[quasistellar]

Here's why the bolded works in the Big Ten and not in the Big 12...note the AVG/G column. Really hoping the ISU coaching staff figures this out sooner than later. These stats are for conference games only.

Offense​

Index	Team	G	TD	FG	XPT	2XP	DXP	SAF	PTS	AVG/G
1	Ohio State	8	48	11	47	0	0	0	368	46.0
2	Penn State	8	35	10	35	0	0	0	275	34.4
3	Michigan	8	29	21	28	1	0	0	267	33.4
4	Purdue	8	24	11	23	0	0	0	200	25.0
5	Maryland	8	23	10	18	2	0	0	192	24.0
6	Wisconsin	8	24	6	22	0	0	0	184	23.0
7	Indiana	8	21	8	19	1	0	0	171	21.4
8	Illinois	8	18	15	16	1	0	0	171	21.4
9	Minnesota	8	20	9	20	0	0	0	167	20.9
10	Michigan State	8	22	4	18	0	0	0	162	20.3
11	Nebraska	8	19	7	18	0	0	0	153	19.1
12	Iowa	8	16	13	16	0	0	0	151	18.9
13	Rutgers	8	12	7	12	0	0	0	105	13.1
14	Northwestern	8	13	4	11	0	0	0	101	12.6

Offense​

Index	Team	G	TD	FG	XPT	2XP	DXP	SAF	PTS	AVG/G
1	TCU	8	38	11	34	0	0	0	295	36.9
2	Texas	8	35	11	35	0	0	0	278	34.8
3	Kansas State	8	33	13	33	0	0	0	270	33.8
4	Baylor	8	32	7	30	1	0	0	245	30.6
5	Kansas	8	33	5	31	0	0	0	244	30.5
6	Texas Tech	8	29	13	27	1	0	0	242	30.3
7	Oklahoma	8	28	7	27	1	1	0	220	27.5
8	West Virginia	8	28	7	21	1	0	0	214	26.8
9	Oklahoma State	8	22	17	20	1	0	1	207	25.9
10	Iowa State	8	15	9	14	1	0	0	133	16.6

Jesus christ look at those big 10 numbers. Talk about propped up by 3 teams woof.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

This claim is too simplistic, some mistakes in execution can be mostly coaching errors, but others may be on the player. Certainly there are times in every game where players just do the wrong thing, contrary to what they have been coached to do.

I think that's clearly a short coming from the coaches. Discipline is lacking on the offensive line especially.

 

[Dandy]

I said this last week and it didn't get much traction. I'll say it again.

Let Myers walk.
Demote Manning to OL coach (his specialty??) only.
Beg Alex Golesh to come back. Killing it at Tennessee.