One team has made two national title games in the last decade while the others program height in the spread offense era is a Orange bowl win . Anyone else here think Iowa State is a little like Washington State?
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Again, since Pat White and Steve Slaton where there, what the F has WVU done to warrant comparison to us? All of their recent accomplishments are over a decade old.
For the very same reasons that I'd expect yall to not give AF about what happened in the last century is why we don't care that much. BTW, we're also tied for like 8th all time in NFL Hall of Famers and have one of the more extensive coaching trees in Football with people who have been through Eugene in their coaching career.
There are currently 6 teams that have won a CFP game and we're one of them. Incidentally, those 6 teams also finished in the top 6 in recruiting. While we've had only 1 Heisman winner, we've also sent plenty of others to the stage. In this century we also have one of the better winning percentages of all P5 teams.
We used to just be a Track School. Now we have one of the best Athletic Departments in the entire nation and Baseball is the only program I can think of that isn't any good/nationally ranked.
Listen snowflake, I simply made a comparison ON MY TEAM'S MESSAGE BOARD that I feel like Oregon's team is similar to WVU's. You got all butt-hurt and started talking shlt trying to compare your team to actual elite teams while attempting to belittle ISU. Now all you've got is "what are yall gonna do when your coach leaves" talk. You're not bright, and you're not good at shlt-talking. Campbell isn't going anywhere. (BTW, you can attempt to talk shlt about Texans all you want, and you'd mostly be correct. Except for no state income tax there's not a whole lot about this state that's redeeming.)
If Campbell ends up at Bama and pulls a Mike Price/James Harden then we can have this discussion
No, I've consistently asked you questions about your team in response, such as is this your best season ever? What is your marquee bowl win?
At this point all you seem capable of doing is casting aspersions at me when I haven't directed any pejoratives at you. If that's all you're going to continue with then "have a nice day, if you want."
" When we drop our 250-260 pound edge players, they can run with any TE. " <--- I don't like the sound of that.
I would say you nailed it. (side note - the Oregon fans visiting here have been great. That makes the boards much more fun during run ups to games like this - with new opponents.)
Our run defense is sneaky. It doesn't "look" like we should be that good, but it will often seem like our guys appear out of nowhere to make a potential 8 yard gain turn into a 2.5 yard gain.
Just a little observation.. I don't recall seeing any called running plays for Purdy lately. I wonder if this was a "don't let him get hurt and leave us in a bind for remaining important games" situation. Similarly, I wonder if he'll be used a bit more that way for this game. Not that anyone wants him hurt of course, but there isn't maybe the same hesitancy. If so, I wonder if that might be "freeing" for him - maybe not having him force as many passes (i.e. vs. some of his recent interceptions).
Our team seems very comfortable getting in a groove throwing 8 yard passes to the sure-handed TEs and let them drag a guy or two for repeated 15 yard gains. We don't really throw deep too often. Your comment about 4 down + QB spy is interesting. I don't think our BigXII opponents did that extensively (I could be wrong there). If I were DC - I'd probably make Purdy beat me on the ground first.
I feel like QB pressure has been hard for us to handle lately. I'm concerned there.
This will be a fun one.
Since it's quite easy to look up, and since it's been discussed by every single announcer on TV during our games, and since you likely already know the answer... Yes, this is Iowa State's best season and I'm incredibly proud of the team and happy for the fans who have continually packed 60,000 people into the stands even when we had back-to-back-back-to-back-to-... 2 to 3 win seasons.
As for bowl wins, we don't have any big marquee wins. We beat a higher ranked team in the Liberty bowl, got screwed on a wide-right call against Alabama in '01, won the Insight Bowl against Minnesota in '09. Beyond that there's only been two other bowl wins out of 15.
Iowa State had an AD who was abhorrent and simply didn't believe in investing into the athletics programs. Would love to have a benefactor like Nike to buy some players, but appreciate that we continue to attempt to do things the honorable way (a saying reserved for teams with poor history).
You won't have much luck trash talking Iowa State fans. We've suffered decades of bad football, and we all know it. We're happy to be where we are and statues will be built in Campbell's honor and probably placed adjacent to Jack Trice's (if you don't know who that is you should look it up).
Honestly, at the time, there WAS no Big 12 conference. Texas and OU were the ones who decided to keep it going. The rest of the conference was ready to scatter. A lot of it was that the networks agreed to keep paying the B12 the same money they were getting with 2 less teams. ESPN wanted the conference to stay alive. I just don't agree with the bending over backwards thought. The only thing they really did was allow Texas to keep their network, which they already had a contract for. Yeah, Texas makes more money than the rest of us, but equal revenue sharing for everything else was a major boost for most of the conference and has allowed teams like ISU to invest heavily in facilities and salaries. We still had the right to market our own T3 rights...it's just that those are worth more like $2M instead of $15M. That's just reality.
Speaking for ISU fans (and a lot of the other schools, probably), I don't think that we are really bowing down to UT or that they run the show. They just have a bigger fanbase and bigger national following...and the ticket sales and donations that go with it. Pretty much at most schools, those budget lines are just as important as the TV package anyway.
How can you compare
First of all Phil Knight is not a benefactor he is a former athlete for the university of course he is going to financially support the athletic department he played for. Also we get players by having better recruiters these days as even when we made two national titles our recruiting was in the 15-25 range compared to the top 10 classes we’ve signed in the last 3 years.
And we were all getting along so well...
They were damn good a couple of years ago with Grier, but they've fallen off big time since then. At the very least, Oregon has been able to be consistent despite a few coaching changes. Hasn't helped recently that their HC has been in the running for other jobs. I do think that they are on the right track to be relevant again, but they have a ways to go to get to Oregon's level as a program (and so do we for that matter).
Sorry one of y’all comparing a top 10-15 job in college football to WVU is a bridge too far
I don't think that poster meant it to be taken as an insult, but I would agree Oregon is above West Virginia as a football program.
You called NIKE the benefactor. Sorry one of Oregon athletes was genius enough to make billions after his athletic career at the university of Oregon was done.
Don't get bent out of shape. You don't have to agree with the comparison. I don't either. I think Oregon is a MUCH better program than WVU.
WVU isn’t even close to the level of Oregon, but I’m not sure if that was the comparison being made here. I think what he was trying to say Is that the feeling around this game and WVU game are similar.
Another thing regarding Nike is that our Track Coach at the time, Bill Bowerman, was instrumental in the formation of the company. Prefontaine hated the Nike swoosh as a side note. Bill Bowerman is one of the most impressive American's of the last century having negotiated the stand-down of German forces near the Brenner Pass to say nothing of his athletic achievements. Later in life he would help fight against the Rajneesh who moved to Oregon in the "Wild Wild Country" netflix series.
In the 2000's Oregon had a major endowment fund project and most of the 1 Billion did not come from Phil and Penny Knight. The Larry Lokey science building came out of that project and none of it was from the Knights even though they have certainly built many buildings on campus.
In the 2000's Oregon had a major endowment fund project and most of the 1 Billion did not come from Phil and Penny Knight. The Larry Lokey science building came out of that project and none of it was from the Knights even though they have certainly built many buildings on campus.
