**** daylight savings

Also, when permanent DST was tried before, they reversed it a year later. I think the late dawns bother people more than the early summer sunsets. Seattle would have sunrise around 9 AM in mid-December, for example
 
Didn't they try it once back in the early 70's and it didn't go well? I thought I read something about that a few years back.
Before my time, so I have no idea.

Personally I know i could adjust my schedule to deal with the sunrise/sunset. I would suspect that businesses that rely on daylight would be able to adjust as well. Might take a few years for things to settle out, but it's better than getting jerked around twice every year.
 
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Well the people that complained about changing the clocks will get their wish. Winter doesn’t work well for areas that won’t see sunrise till after 9 am. They did daylight savings in the 70s and was very unpopular
 
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Before my time, so I have no idea.

Personally I know i could adjust my schedule to deal with the sunrise/sunset. I would suspect that businesses that rely on daylight would be able to adjust as well. Might take a few years for things to settle out, but it's better than getting jerked around twice every year.
I don't really have strong feelings on the subject. I just feel like its something people are going to complain about either way.
 
So, I like having daylight until 8:30-9:00 in the evening. Is that what Pres.Trump wants to keep or deal away with?
 
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I do blame everyone that complained about switching their clocks twice a year. Never understood why it was hard.

I agree to an extent as I can adjust and don't see it as a big deal personally but there are studies/articles in this very thread somewhere pointing to the health outcomes from the changes so it's not just people complaining.
 
Before my time, so I have no idea.

Personally I know i could adjust my schedule to deal with the sunrise/sunset. I would suspect that businesses that rely on daylight would be able to adjust as well. Might take a few years for things to settle out, but it's better than getting jerked around twice every year.
So let’s say businesses change and go to more of a 7-4 time and schools do the same. What does that gain in the winter? Everyone goes to work/school in the dark. If we stay an 8-5, everyone gets an hour less sunlight in the evenings for 9 months out of the year.
 
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People who can't handle moving a clock 1 hour twice a year are soft. Sack up, it's 1 ******* hour.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have or has forgotten how much it ***** with small kids sleep schedules. It’s a week of ****** sleep adjusting to it.

Personally I wish it was light out for as long as possible into the evening all year round.
 
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have or has forgotten how much it ***** with small kids sleep schedules. It’s a week of ****** sleep adjusting to it.
I have a 1 year old and a 3 year old. It isn’t bad at all. In the spring they wake up an hour later and I just shorten their nap a bit and they are already adjusted by the evening.
 
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That would be gone. Permanent Standard time is what is being pushed. No spring forward in March.
Sun comes up at 4 am in the summer. Sets an hour earlier than we’re used to.

Here’s the deal: every option has benefits and drawbacks - permanent standard time, permanent DST, or changing the clocks twice a year. There’s no perfect solution, and people will be unhappy no matter what. Personally, it’s not that big a deal to change the clocks, and it’s worth it to get some extra sunlight for summer evenings, but I can recognize that’s not the ideal for everybody.

It’s the people who think permanent DST or permanent standard time will solve everything and everybody gets what they want and nobody could complain about it who are living in a fantasy world.
 

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