Collegiate Duals

[ISU22CY]

It being dangerous is a joke. Wrestlers have cut significantly more weight and been thrown out there hundreds of thousands of times. Might have looked like Slaton vs Fanthorpe, but it being for health reasons thing is nonsense.

If the cut was that bad and they were being responsible with his health, they would have stopped the weight cut 2-3 pounds over instead of letting him continue all the way to weight.

Email Dresser he's always open to reading suggestions

 

[crablegs]

Email Dresser he's always open to reading suggestions

I don’t have a suggestion for him. Just for the posters on this board to look in the mirror regarding ducking.

 

[jkbuff98]

I don’t have a suggestion for him. Just for the posters on this board to look in the mirror regarding ducking.

Asking for clarification

think it’s time to end the ducking talk. These are D1 wrestlers who deal with constant injuries, sickness, and weight issues.

Just the way it is. The time of wrestling through minor injuries, illness, and bad weight cuts is a thing of the past.

So is Evan’s bad weight cut ducking or just the way it is ?

 

[crablegs]

Asking for clarification



So is Evan’s bad weight cut ducking or just the way it is ?

I think it’s just the way it is. What im saying is we need consistency. If KOT ducked Carr in the dual, then Frost ducked Knox. No difference.

 

[matclone]

I don’t have a suggestion for him. Just for the posters on this board to look in the mirror regarding ducking.

In this case (Frost's non-wrestle against Stanford) and others, you've basically substituted your judgment for Dresser and the coaching staff.

 

[CyCity]

I think it’s just the way it is. What im saying is we need consistency. If KOT ducked Carr in the dual, then Frost ducked Knox. No difference.

Strong disagree on this one.

 

[CloneMalone]

Cornell guys wrestled earlier in the day then sat against us. They were healthy. You can say Frost was ducking if you want but you can’t compare the two situations.

I agree with this, particularly related to Ramirez. Since he beat David earlier at CKLV, he was protecting his NCAA seeding by ducking the rematch. Which ended up working out as he got the 3 seed. However, as we all know, everything ended up working out in the end with Carr winning it all. But the strategy of Cornell to duck this dual last year played out. I think it has been well communicated that Frost was sick and/or struggling with his cut early in the year. These are two very different sceneries.

 

[jkbuff98]

The way I look at it not wrestling due to a bad weight cut and not wrestling due to the fact your opponent has something to gain and you have something to lose are two very different things .

 

[JM4CY]

I think it’s just the way it is. What im saying is we need consistency. If KOT ducked Carr in the dual, then Frost ducked Knox. No difference.

Jesus Christ.

 

[buf87]

I have more confidence in saying Cornell ducked (Esp Ramirez) than some of the Missouri guys. But no one will ever know the behind the scenes that were happening unless someone from Mizz or Cornell talks.

 

[buf87]

You do not wrestle anyone on the other side of the bracket, so we will not wrestle PSU, Mizz or either of the other 2. I believe this is correct!!!

 

[HGoat1]

Do we know if Paniro is on his way down to 149? Guessing descent plan wouldn't allow for him to be at 149 by collegiate duals?

 

[matclone]

Projected lineup for Collegiate Duals.

Wt. Name Year Hometown Record Career InterMat Flo
125 Kysen Terukina Sr. Ewa Beach, Hawaii 0-0 40-27 - -
-or- Ethan Perryman So. Temecula, Calif. 11-4 37-15 - -
133 Evan Frost So. Metairie, La. 4-2 41-14 6 6
-or- Osmany Diversent Fr. La Habana, Cuba 8-1 8-1 - -
141 Jacob Frost So. Metairie, La. 12-3 28-7 19 26
149 Carter Fousek So. Chester, Iowa 8-5 17-8 - -
157 Paniro Johnson R-So. Erie, Pa. 7-3 25-10 13 12
-or- Cody Chittum So. Cleveland, Tenn. 4-1 20-8 - -
165 MJ Gaitan So. Temecula, Calif. 8-2 34-15 14 16
-or- Manny Rojas So. Bay City, Mich. 11-4 26-9 - -
174 Aiden Riggins R-So. Janesville, Iowa 6-5 23-20 - -
184 Evan Bockman Sr. Anchorage, Alaska 5-3 63-36 14 16
-or- Nando Villaescusa So. Tucson, Ariz. 11-5 15-12 - -
197 Christian Carroll R-Fr. Elkhart, Ind. 5-5 5-5 23 20
-or- Sawyer Bartelt Fr. Miami, Fla. 9-3 9-3 - -
HWT Yonger Bastida Sr. Trinidad, Cuba 1-0 74-22 NR 4
-or- Daniel Herrera Fr. Indio, Calif. 8-3 8-3 27 NR

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/isuni.sidearmsports.com/documents/2024/12/19/ISU_Notes_Collegiate_Duals24.pdf

 

[jkbuff98]

I still don’t get burning Herrera‘s shirt unless they are positive Yonger is done for the year.

 

[ISU22CY]

I still don’t get burning Herrera‘s shirt unless they are positive Yonger is done for the year.

I wonder if we don't see Yonger right from the start and see how that goes and if all is well keep wrestling him. If something isn't right then Herrera gets thrown out there and the decision is made that Yonger is done for the year

 

[CyCity]

I still don’t get burning Herrera‘s shirt unless they are positive Yonger is done for the year.

If Herrera is going to burn his redshirt I think that tells is Yonger is done for the year. I don’t see them doing it if he’s coming back.

 

[NEICyFan]

I don’t know how noble we are but we have by far the most transparent coach in college wrestling and doesn’t lie about injuries or guys being out.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

If Herrera is going to burn his redshirt I think that tells is Yonger is done for the year. I don’t see them doing it if he’s coming back.

I think both things might happen to some degree.

Herrera burned RS, Yonger gets spot duty but stays under his 30%.

 

[charlie_B]

I think both things might happen to some degree.

Herrera burned RS, Yonger gets spot duty but stays under his 30%.

Cant wrestle in the second half of the season I think is the current rule for medical redshirt.

 

[CloneFanInKC]

I still don’t get burning Herrera‘s shirt unless they are positive Yonger is done for the year.

I agree and think you solved the puzzle