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As always. Its the go to rationalization of old people and fans that dont know basketball. If this team gave 110%, had 2 6'10" plodders, and shot 90% from the line we'd be national champs.
Cyclonepride
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I probably fit the old guy demographic and respectively disagree with a couple of the sentiments described. I will say defense and rebounding is about effort and if you disagree, you never played basketball.
One thing good teams do is get better as the season goes on. Even good ISU teams of the past have looked bad in Dec at times. Look back at the past 6 years teams and they all had issues this time of year and fans were worried. If you look around college basketball even the best programs are not always great this time of year. See the yearly Kansas isn't that good thread posted about this time of year. They do get better and play better as the season goes on. The goal is to be playing good ball at the end of Jan to March. Time will tell with this team.
Cyclonepride
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It's also interesting that when Coach Prohm focused them on defense, they played well defensively and the same with the offense. So he knows how to coach. Time to start putting it all together.
It also seems like he focuses on making our team better for lower opponents and on the opposition for better ones.
It also seems like he focuses on making our team better for lower opponents and on the opposition for better ones.
After Morris' comments after the Iowa loss, Prohm should have made it clear to the players that ONLY comments RESPECTING their opponents will be made to the press from now on. Instead comes this crap. We have a very timid coach.
Wow, Bowie actually said that Drake was "a good team", how dumb is this guy? They're 1-9 ya bozo, obviously not good!
oh please. this is nonsensical. All coaches are imperfect human beings because we are all imperfect human beings, but Prohm is not "timid".
Throwing out a wild idea here, but maybe focus on both offense and defense? Not sure if any coaches have tried this route but I think it might make sense.
Let me just say that the way this team played One Win Drake last nite...they certainly are good...Good Enough To LOSE to Kansas.....Baylor and Oklahoma....@ home......
This team needs a serious attitude adjustment.....
We're not going to lose to Oklahoma at home
Remember, no guarantees in sports.....plenty of those who said we wouldn't lose to Cincy at home, either. OU better than Cincy, imo. Having said that, I just hope we can come on this message board in February and criticize/ridicule all of the negative posts this week, including any of my own. That would be worth it.
I agree with you re george niang and our absymal offense...but that still doesnt explain the lousy defense and the breakaway basket, after a made basket by us ....even steve prohm had to call a timeout on that one.....
Going to be a long year and maybe the next couple years before we er prohm gets enough talent to get back to the top 20........
Yes, I read your post.
Just eyeballing here, but I would say most Top 25 teams have one or multiple players that can create and do SOMETHING to be multi-dimentional. I don't think ISU has that. Morris going pick and roll usually looks like a guy trying to do something that doesn't fit his abilities. Thomas is actually pretty good at finding his own shot, but I think is getting blanketed up. Long is best without dribbling. Burton...it's either straight to the basket or a heave.
Experienced, yes. Multi-dementional...not seeing it. It's not like Drake was completely physically mismatched all over the court, no matter what ISU's players (and fans) seem to think or say.
if you think the effort has been there all season, than we are watching separate games. One thing that sticks out to me often is our lack of effort to 50/50 balls, and on simple rebounds. To me, one of the main reason we lost to Iowa was because we had little to no effort.
Well now I saw thee Okies play yesterday and I beg to differ with you......If the defense doesnt improve we will lose to the sooners inside hilton......
A little hypocritical to say the team should have blown out Drake and then criticize a player for saying the same thing in different words.
