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I dont know a whole lot about coaches salaries but can isu afford to give him what an sec team would offer?

Maybe not SEC salaries but certainly more than what we are paying now. Those days of ISU living on extra tight budgets are over.
 

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Maybe not SEC salaries but certainly more than what we are paying now. Those days of ISU living on extra tight budgets are over.

I agree we need to rip up the old contract, but is JP hoarding cash or are we living paycheck to paycheck? Where does the extra few million come from?

An interesting note is CMC's contract is really loaded with incentives. He's getting 6 wins (500k), getting COY award (100k) and maybe even a bowl win bonus. Lets be honest here, if another school is offering a half million dollars to win 6 games they aren't worth leaving ISU for. So do we raise the base and eliminate the 500k bonus?
 

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Pay the man. Well.
I believe the more immediate problem will be keeping Manning, Heacock, and Ayeni. How does that work with assistant coaches contracts? Are they tied to Campbell's in any way or is he just given X amount of $$ to hire his staff? I do remember that JP was after (and got) a head coach who could bring his staff with him to Ames. Let's keep the entire staff here!
 

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I believe the more immediate problem will be keeping Manning, Heacock, and Ayeni. How does that work with assistant coaches contracts? Are they tied to Campbell's in any way or is he just given X amount of $$ to hire his staff? I do remember that JP was after (and got) a head coach who could bring his staff with him to Ames. Let's keep the entire staff here!

I suspect the test will be how well we can replace assistants, not how well we can keep assistants.
 

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Same thing was said about Rhoads and then everyone was pissed we did it when the bottom fell out.
I think that comparison is fairly lazy, and that’s also assuming it was a bad decision to lock up Rhoads.

People aren’t bullish on CMC because he got 8 turnovers against a mediocre NU team or beat a poor UT team. Hell, we lost to a mediocre UT team. It’s because he has a good plan and he’s executing it in all phases of program building.

We’ve got to do all we can to lock him up. In terms of the opportunity cost to the university we could justify spending almost more than any other program imo, although unfortunately we missed the days of building programs on the backs of taxpayers. Worse case scenario with paying to keep him is we’re right where we have been from historically not paying.
 

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I believe the more immediate problem will be keeping Manning, Heacock, and Ayeni. How does that work with assistant coaches contracts? Are they tied to Campbell's in any way or is he just given X amount of $$ to hire his staff? I do remember that JP was after (and got) a head coach who could bring his staff with him to Ames. Let's keep the entire staff here!
Yeah, I believe Campbell is given a pool of money for his staff, then he decides how to divvy it out. That pool needs to grow along with Campbell's salary.
 

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Totally agree, better pay up now. Campbell has been so complimentary of ISU and the fanbase. Time to pay him back early and show him how much we appreciate him. Otherwise we are going to lose him after next year, if not earlier

We may lose him after this year if we dont give him a new contract...remember Nebraska is looking for a coach and right now and Matt Campbell is the Hottest Coaching Property in this flippin' country...

Jamie has to pay up or lose Matt Campbell imho

Go Cyclones
 

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We may lose him after this year if we dont give him a new contract...remember Nebraska is looking for a coach and right now and Matt Campbell is the Hottest Coaching Property in this flippin' country...

Jamie has to pay up or lose Matt Campbell imho

Go Cyclones

Pretty sure Campbell will not be going to Nebraska even if ISU gives him no raise. This is not 1997.
 

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I think that comparison is fairly lazy, and that’s also assuming it was a bad decision to lock up Rhoads.

People aren’t bullish on CMC because he got 8 turnovers against a mediocre NU team or beat a poor UT team. Hell, we lost to a mediocre UT team. It’s because he has a good plan and he’s executing it in all phases of program building.

We’ve got to do all we can to lock him up. In terms of the opportunity cost to the university we could justify spending almost more than any other program imo, although unfortunately we missed the days of building programs on the backs of taxpayers. Worse case scenario with paying to keep him is we’re right where we have been from historically not paying.

Also, i think its widely thought Rhoads benefitted from the recruits in the program for his early success, whereas Campbell is more seen to have been left with a lot less to start out with.

And honestly i really don't have a problem with the contract Pollard gave Rhoads. In 2011, the market was demanding a pay increase . Pollard got away with offering years instead of annual salary, and ultimately even with the buyout we probably didn't pay him much more than if we'd paid the market price from 2011 on.
 

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We may lose him after this year if we dont give him a new contract...remember Nebraska is looking for a coach and right now and Matt Campbell is the Hottest Coaching Property in this flippin' country...

Jamie has to pay up or lose Matt Campbell imho

Go Cyclones
The hottest coaching candidate isn’t going to Nebraska. That’s like winning a nice lottery and blowing it all on the Poweball.

I think we pay him to stay, but I certainly don’t see him leaving for any Big 10 team or a has been.
 

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And honestly i really don't have a problem with the contract Pollard gave Rhoads. In 2011, the market was demanding a pay increase . Pollard got away with offering years instead of annual salary, and ultimately even with the buyout we probably didn't pay him much more than if we'd paid the market price from 2011 on.

Totally agree with this... I thought we payed Rhoads what we should have given what he did. And CMC (and his whole coaching staff) deserve a raise... as others have said, that only happens if us, as fans, help pay for it.... so donate to ISU, get your friends up in the seats, heck go buy tickets to other sporting events (women's basketball, volleyball, wrestling, anything you can).
 
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The hottest coaching candidate isn’t going to Nebraska. That’s like winning a nice lottery and blowing it all on the Poweball.

I think we pay him to stay, but I certainly don’t see him leaving for any Big 10 team or a has been.

Nebraska has the money to buy any coach they want in this country......Whomever the new AD wants he will get with an unlimited amount of money thrown at the coach......

"I would never coach at Nebraska because you have to win every game".....quoting Jimmy Dean Walden

Go Cyclones
 

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There is no way ISU can't afford a $3.5M-$4/year head coach. Add an additional $2M in the assistant pool. This would be the best investment Pollard has ever made and that includes the south end zone. Facilities are nice, but Pollard's tenure will come down to keeping good coaches and he is 0-2. This can be a chance to change all that. This is his shot.
 
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There is not way ISU can't afford a $3.5M-$4/year head coach. Add an additional $2M in the assistant pool. This would be the best investment Pollard has ever made and that includes the south end zone. Facilities are nice, but Pollard's tenure will come down to keeping good coaches and he is 0-2. This can be a chance to change all that.

We can afford it, it just means that the other sports will suffer more like they used to before these huge TV contracts. Were getting $10s of millions from the Big 12, we can pay Campbell whatever we want practically, it just means tennis and golf and swimming, and the others will suffer. Its sad, but thats the reality if you want to keep coaches these days.
 

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If isu wins 7+ games or better JP will have to pay CMC $3 mil+ and add to assistant salary. Bulls I believe paid isu for FH? We have the money and to say otherwise non sense. This AD is racking in $$ like never before. Pay CMC $3mil with incentives to $3.5 mil.

Manning we must hold on to..he's one of best OL coaches in county and a darn good OC..
 

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We can afford it, it just means that the other sports will suffer more like they used to before these huge TV contracts. Were getting $10s of millions from the Big 12, we can pay Campbell whatever we want practically, it just means tennis and golf and swimming, and the others will suffer. Its sad, but thats the reality if you want to keep coaches these days.
Other than football and basketball, who cares. Sorry to say but we aren't at the big boy table after the next round of realignment if we have the #1 golf team in the country. Competing for Big 12 titles in football, that's another story.
 

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Nebraska has the money to buy any coach they want in this country......Whomever the new AD wants he will get with an unlimited amount of money thrown at the coach......

"I would never coach at Nebraska because you have to win every game".....quoting Jimmy Dean Walden

Go Cyclones
Will that money get them something better than Mike Reilly this time?
 

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We can afford it, it just means that the other sports will suffer more like they used to before these huge TV contracts. Were getting $10s of millions from the Big 12, we can pay Campbell whatever we want practically, it just means tennis and golf and swimming, and the others will suffer. Its sad, but thats the reality if you want to keep coaches these days.

Disagree. Winning football is the best investment we can make in other, more minor sports. Winning football == $$$$. You pay anyone who can bring that to ISU whatever they want.