CFN Prediction

[Cyguy4IA]

My prediction:

Iowa 24 - IA St 7


Arnarud 12-19 175 yards 1 TD, 2 picks
Stanzi 17-25, 255 yard 2 TD's

ARob 65 rush yards
Arnaud 50 rush yards

Hampton 125 rush, 1 TD
Adam Rob 75 rush yards

 

[CycloneGB]

I definitely had the high school rule in my head, as I've seen a team pick the other off in OT and had the play whistled dead.

At least, I know that's how they do it in Iowa. Anyway, I was wrong. Carry on.

Yeah not sure about the HS rule, haven't seen many HS overtime games. I think that might be the rule in HS (possibly college) when you pick off a 2pt conversion attempt. I am not sure where but I know I've seen a play called dead as soon as its intercepted/fumbled.

 

[AirWalke]

With the exception of last year, Iowa has rarely been better than Iowa State over the last 12 years. Nice try at a dig at Iowa State though squawk.

Not his prediction -- that's from CFN. And let's face it -- I don't think I remember a year besides 2000 in the past decade that ISU has finished with the better record than Iowa.

 

[Klonz]

What Will Happen: Iowa State QB Austen Arnaud had a nightmare of a day last year against the Hawkeyes throwing four picks and just 79 yards in the blowout loss. He’ll make amends with a tremendous performance, but it won’t be enough as Iowa runs for 200 yards to overcome several turnovers on the way to the win.
CFN Prediction: Iowa 27 … Iowa State 13 … Line: Iowa -13.5

Scout.com: 2010 Big Ten Predictions - Penn St vs. Bama

AA is the key to this game. He must prove that he is a Big 12 QB with 3 years starting experience... he must do 3 things: 1) Not throw into coverage/throw picks; 2) throw the ball away when in trouble; 3) Not stare down his intended receiver and actually see all his receiving options and hit them on the run...

The rest of the team needs to play solid - but this game is on AA.

Go Clones Go AA - let's go beat these over-rated babies!

Just my humble opinion!

 

[Redhawk94]

1998 - ISU 3-9; Iowa - 3-8 (Push)
1999 - ISU 4-7; Iowa - 1-10 (ISU)
2000 - ISU 9-3; Iowa - 3-9 (ISU)
2001 - ISU 7-5; Iowa - 7-5 (Push)
2002 - ISU 7-7; Iowa - 11-2 (Iowa)
2003 - ISU 2-10; Iowa - 10-3 (Iowa)
2004 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 10-2 (Iowa)
2005 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 7-5 (Push)
2006 - ISU 4-8; Iowa 6-7 (Push)
2007 - ISU 3-9; Iowa 6-6 (Iowa)
2008 - ISU 2-10; Iowa 9-4 (Iowa)
2009 - ISU 7-6; Iowa 11-2 (Iowa)

Seems to me that Iowa has been the better team 6 times and ISU has been the better team 2 times with 4 pushes.

 

[CykoAGR]

With the exception of last year, Iowa has rarely been better than Iowa State over the last 12 years. Nice try at a dig at Iowa State though squawk.

First off this was taken from CFN not the OP's personal opinion. Second of all ON PAPER most times Iowa does have the better team when you breakdown each position or position groups such as OL vs DL QB/RB vs LB etc. In most years Iowa comes away with the advantage again on paper. The years that ISU was able to win were a result of fewer mistakes from ISU and/or better scheming to get the win.

I think that this is exactly what will need to happen this year for ISU to get the W. ON PAPER Iowa has the advantage in most cases. On the otherhand the ISU offense is very similar scheme wise and possibly better talent wise than schools that have historically given Iowa problems, see Northwestern.

ISU must play nearly mistake free and for God's sake score touchdowns when they get into the redzone. They will also need Iowa, ie Ricky for Heisman Stanzi to make some mistakes and turn the ball over.

 

[keepngoal]

better team means better overall record? head to head? what makes the better team?

 

[Al_4_State]

1998 - ISU 3-9; Iowa - 3-8 (Push)
1999 - ISU 4-7; Iowa - 1-10 (ISU)
2000 - ISU 9-3; Iowa - 3-9 (ISU)
2001 - ISU 7-5; Iowa - 7-5 (Push)
2002 - ISU 7-7; Iowa - 11-2 (Iowa)
2003 - ISU 2-10; Iowa - 10-3 (Iowa)
2004 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 10-2 (Iowa)
2005 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 7-5 (Push)
2006 - ISU 4-8; Iowa 6-7 (Push)
2007 - ISU 3-9; Iowa 6-6 (Iowa)
2008 - ISU 2-10; Iowa 9-4 (Iowa)
2009 - ISU 7-6; Iowa 11-2 (Iowa)

Seems to me that Iowa has been the better team 6 times and ISU has been the better team 2 times with 4 pushes.

I think the team with the better record is the better team. If they have the same record, you go head to head.

That's 5 times ISU was better, and 7 times Iowa was better.

 

[DolphLundgren]

better team means better overall record? head to head? what makes the better team?

Has to be a combo of both. Purdue wasn't better than Ohio State last year, for example.

 

[Cylax51]

Has to be a combo of both. Purdue wasn't better than Ohio State last year, for example.

Correct. That is why Al said if it is a tie, then you go to head to head. That makes more sense

 

[cyguytillidie]

Even the more incredible considering the ball is instantly dead on an interception in overtime.

I believe that's the rule for Iowa High School football. At least you were close. :wink:

 

[cyguytillidie]

look-a-like?

1998 - ISU 3-9; Iowa - 3-8 (Push)
1999 - ISU 4-7; Iowa - 1-10 (ISU)
2000 - ISU 9-3; Iowa - 3-9 (ISU)
2001 - ISU 7-5; Iowa - 7-5 (Push)
2002 - ISU 7-7; Iowa - 11-2 (Iowa)
2003 - ISU 2-10; Iowa - 10-3 (Iowa)
2004 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 10-2 (Iowa)
2005 - ISU 7-5; Iowa 7-5 (Push)
2006 - ISU 4-8; Iowa 6-7 (Push)
2007 - ISU 3-9; Iowa 6-6 (Iowa)
2008 - ISU 2-10; Iowa 9-4 (Iowa)
2009 - ISU 7-6; Iowa 11-2 (Iowa)

kind of have to be creative.

 

[LoewDog]

I agree that AA is key to the game, but I think how he goes will depend on the OL. If he is under pressure there could be some ducks in the air.

I am really looking forward to this Iowa DL vs. isu OL battle.

 

[alarson]

When you take Iowa's average win margin last year and remove our pickfest (a clear outlier from the group) from that, you see an average margin of about a TD as well, with 4 of their games being within 3 points, and in all but 2 games (us and indiana) iowa's margin above their opponent was less than 14 points. I dont see that suddenly changing this year (blowout wins over FCS teams not included) , and if iowa plays a typical game, and we play smart and dont turn the ball over, the game will be close, and as long as youre still in it in the 4th quarter, there's always a chance to pull off the win.

Since this series became competive again in 1998, the series, on the whole, has been fairly close on both sides. ISU has 7 wins in that time, Iowa has 5. Only 4 times has the margin been greater than two TDs by the winning team, and ISU and Iowa split those evenly at 2 (98 and 05 for ISU, 03 and 09 for Iowa). Average win, when you take out those outliers, is about a TD. (with those outliers, its about 12 points, still closer than the spread)

Last year, they beat us by 32 points. We had 6 turnovers, iirc (5 ints and a fumble lost iirc). Without those, that wouldve been a lot closer game. Im not saying this as an excuse, Iowa took advantage of those turnovers and won the game (and likely wouldve won it), but you also have to consider that that was an early game in a new system, and that that score, by itself, doesnt say anything about what's necessarily going to happen this year. Without those turnovers you probably would have seen an Iowa win that was more within its typical margin of victory, both in modern series history and in last season's results.

Also, i have to note...whoever wins is the better team on that day. Final record doesnt mean as much unless we play in the same conference and take on the same teams. Also, ultimately ISU probably didnt FINISH better than the hawks, but on that day in september, they were better. So, to say that ISU has rarely been better than iowa, i must strongly disagree.

 

[hawkeyeh8r]

i think we will make 5 fgs and stop them on the last kickoff of the game around our 20 or 25 yd line and win 15-13

 

[Klonz]

i think we will make 5 fgs and stop them on the last kickoff of the game around our 20 or 25 yd line and win 15-13

I would much rather win in a TD shoot out... we are trying to put in a spread offense and we haven't scored a TD against Iowa's d in a few years. Let's win it on a last second FG or TD - I just want us to score some TDs against them.

 

[Dino]

When you take Iowa's average win margin last year and remove our pickfest (a clear outlier from the group) from that, you see an average margin of about a TD as well, with 4 of their games being within 3 points, and in all but 2 games (us and indiana) iowa's margin above their opponent was less than 14 points. I dont see that suddenly changing this year (blowout wins over FCS teams not included) , and if iowa plays a typical game, and we play smart and dont turn the ball over, the game will be close, and as long as youre still in it in the 4th quarter, there's always a chance to pull off the win.

Since this series became competive again in 1998, the series, on the whole, has been fairly close on both sides. ISU has 7 wins in that time, Iowa has 5. Only 4 times has the margin been greater than two TDs by the winning team, and ISU and Iowa split those evenly at 2 (98 and 05 for ISU, 03 and 09 for Iowa). Average win, when you take out those outliers, is about a TD. (with those outliers, its about 12 points, still closer than the spread)

Last year, they beat us by 32 points. We had 6 turnovers, iirc (5 ints and a fumble lost iirc). Without those, that wouldve been a lot closer game. Im not saying this as an excuse, Iowa took advantage of those turnovers and won the game (and likely wouldve won it), but you also have to consider that that was an early game in a new system, and that that score, by itself, doesnt say anything about what's necessarily going to happen this year. Without those turnovers you probably would have seen an Iowa win that was more within its typical margin of victory, both in modern series history and in last season's results.

Also, i have to note...whoever wins is the better team on that day. Final record doesnt mean as much unless we play in the same conference and take on the same teams. Also, ultimately ISU probably didnt FINISH better than the hawks, but on that day in september, they were better. So, to say that ISU has rarely been better than iowa, i must strongly disagree.

Get that logic and facts BS out of here!

 

[LoewDog]

Hawk fans want to throw out an outlier piece like the 63 yard run in clone ARob's stats and that is just something you cannot do. It happened and it was impressive. Kudos to ARob and the OL.

Yet you guys want to throw out the picks in last years games as if the Hawks had nothing to do with it? It happened and it was impressive.

Both sides sound like sour grapes when you cannot give a college kid props for making a hell of a play.

 

[alarson]

Hawk fans want to throw out an outlier piece like the 63 yard run in clone ARob's stats and that is just something you cannot do. It happened and it was impressive. Kudos to ARob and the OL.

Yet you guys want to throw out the picks in last years games as if the Hawks had nothing to do with it? It happened and it was impressive.

Both sides sound like sour grapes when you cannot give a college kid props for making a hell of a play.

When iowa doesnt beat anyone like that over the course of the season, its clearly an outlier.

 

[LoewDog]

3 against PSU
3 against Wisconsin
3 against Indiana

Granted 5 is a lot, but it is not like it is super crazy for the Hawks to get lots of picks in a game.