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It's not about it being a public record. It's about having some empathy for a fellow human being. Just ask yourself if you would want people posting and talking about your mistakes or criminal record? That's the question you should ask yourself before posting about him, and I suspect for most on here the answer to that question would be "no." That's the test I'd hope one would apply before deciding whether or not to post.

Also, this is directed @CoachHines3, as he was the one who posted it.
When I was arrested during VEISHEA, my sister taped the newspaper clipping of the police blotter on the wall at her party the next night.

I don't see a lot of stone-throwing in here since many of us have ****** up pretty solidly when we were younger. The posts in here are mostly reminiscing about his time here and him not recognizing his talent level like the rest of us did. I've seen more positivity and encouragement in here than in most comments sections when a famous person messes up.
 

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Went to that tourney. It was a good time. Small gym great seats. I thought we had something that yr, but not so much. If I remember right.

That team had a good starting lineup.

Weiler-Babb (a good college PG, excellent size for his position)
Jackson (one of the better shooters in school history)
Wigginton (quickly becoming an elite college SG)
Young (a good complementary big man to Lard in boxing out and in the P&R game)
Lard (energy and a menace on the offensive boards)

Not the best defensive lineup, but it was fun and could score.

The bench just wasn't very good...

Talley (had a few skills but such a poor shooter it was hard to play him)
Beverly (the "three-point sniper" who went 9/38 for 23.7% from three)
Lewis (the other "three-point sniper" who went 17/59 for 28.8% from three)
Long (seemed like a nice kid but not a Big 12 player)
Brase (would have probably been very good if healthy... just wasn't healthy)

Give that team two good bench guards who can chew up minutes and I bet it makes the NCAA tournament. I don't think it's going to compete for the conference title, but it could have been dangerous.

They had a frustrating start to Big 12 play, too. Lost a lot of close games...

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Finish off Texas and Oklahoma State and nab a huge upset in Lawrence (and yeah yeah I know easier said than done but it was tied with three minutes left to play) to go 4-1 to open up the conference slate... don't get ripped apart by injuries in the last third of the season... have one or two more guards (or even just a healthy Brase who can probably play a "4" position opposite the other big men with one more guard) who can spell the starters at an acceptable level of productivity... squint and you can see an #8 seed and the Ro32.

Alas, nope. Sorry for the long reminiscence. I enjoyed that team and was disappointed it never had a chance to really see what it could do from a lack of depth and numerous injuries.
 

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Green would run him off in a week. We now have expectations.
Remember prohm didn't play him the entire semester once he got here because he wanted him to get on track. But prohm didn't have expectations :rolleyes:
 

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It's not about it being a public record. It's about having some empathy for a fellow human being. Just ask yourself if you would want people posting and talking about your mistakes or criminal record? That's the question you should ask yourself before posting about him, and I suspect for most on here the answer to that question would be "no." That's the test I'd hope one would apply before deciding whether or not to post.

Also, this is directed @CoachHines3, as he was the one who posted it.
Its been 24 hours and yet neither of what he was arrested for this time nor what he was on probation for have been posted.

I do agree with a prior poster on wondering what led him to stick around DSM.
 

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That team had a good starting lineup.

Weiler-Babb (a good college PG, excellent size for his position)
Jackson (one of the better shooters in school history)
Wigginton (quickly becoming an elite college SG)
Young (a good complementary big man to Lard in boxing out and in the P&R game)
Lard (energy and a menace on the offensive boards)

Not the best defensive lineup, but it was fun and could score.

The bench just wasn't very good...

Talley (had a few skills but such a poor shooter it was hard to play him)
Beverly (the "three-point sniper" who went 9/38 for 23.7% from three)
Lewis (the other "three-point sniper" who went 17/59 for 28.8% from three)
Long (seemed like a nice kid but not a Big 12 player)
Brase (would have probably been very good if healthy... just wasn't healthy)

Give that team two good bench guards who can chew up minutes and I bet it makes the NCAA tournament. I don't think it's going to compete for the conference title, but it could have been dangerous.

They had a frustrating start to Big 12 play, too. Lost a lot of close games...

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Finish off Texas and Oklahoma State and nab a huge upset in Lawrence (and yeah yeah I know easier said than done but it was tied with three minutes left to play) to go 4-1 to open up the conference slate... don't get ripped apart by injuries in the last third of the season... have one or two more guards (or even just a healthy Brase who can probably play a "4" position opposite the other big men with one more guard) who can spell the starters at an acceptable level of productivity... squint and you can see an #8 seed and the Ro32.

Alas, nope. Sorry for the long reminiscence. I enjoyed that team and was disappointed it never had a chance to really see what it could do from a lack of depth and numerous injuries.

This is going to read silly, but I honestly think that team is one of the "best" bad teams we've ever had.

Despite all the injuries and lack of quality depth that you mention that team still beat the sh!t out of Texas Tech and West Virginia, who IIRC were both Top 15 teams at the time in Hilton. The West Virginia win came right after we lost NWB for the season and we ran them out of Hilton.

Compared to the last two seasons under Prohm that year felt like an NCAA season by comparison.
 
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At least you didn't do anything heinous like ripping a tag off of your mattress.

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This is going to read silly, but I honestly think that team is one of the "best" bad teams we've ever had.

Despite all the injuries and lack of quality depth that you mention that team still beat the sh!t out of Texas Tech and West Virginia, who IIRC were both Top 15 teams at the time in Hilton. The West Virginia win came right after we lost NWB for the season and we ran them out of Hilton.

Compared to the last two seasons under Prohm that year felt like an NCAA season by comparison.

To me this is the ultimate "how could we not be an NCAA team with this roster?" year:


Two NBA journeymen, one NBA cup of coffee guy, Gilstrap who had NBA level athleticism albeit unpolished, Staiger and Christopherson as above average shooting specialists...how, just how?
 
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Even that though becomes impossible to understand when he goes to the dance almost every year at his next stop...often with less talented rosters than what I just linked. Brackins was an absolute stud at NCAA level and Garrett was probably underutilized.
 

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This is going to read silly, but I honestly think that team is one of the "best" bad teams we've ever had.

Despite all the injuries and lack of quality depth that you mention that team still beat the sh!t out of Texas Tech and West Virginia, who IIRC were both Top 15 teams at the time in Hilton. The West Virginia win came right after we lost NWB for the season and we ran them out of Hilton.

Compared to the last two seasons under Prohm that year felt like an NCAA season by comparison.

That team beat three ranked teams. Not many “bad” ISU teams can say that.

Took McD until the end of his fourth and last season in Ames to beat a ranked team.
 

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This is going to read silly, but I honestly think that team is one of the "best" bad teams we've ever had.

Despite all the injuries and lack of quality depth that you mention that team still beat the sh!t out of Texas Tech and West Virginia, who IIRC were both Top 15 teams at the time in Hilton. The West Virginia win came right after we lost NWB for the season and we ran them out of Hilton.

Compared to the last two seasons under Prohm that year felt like an NCAA season by comparison.
Yeah, I would agree with this. They also beat a #17 OU team at the time (the Trae Young year), which helped propel OU down their end-of-season slide.

There were just a lot of things that happened that season, with the injuries that nagged NWB until he was finally shut down. Young being out at the end of the season. Jackson's father passing away, also at the end of the season when NWB and Young were both out. Talley also missed time leading into conference play. Brase's injuries weren't surprising, but they basically had him shut down until Young got hurt and they suddenly needed him to provide at least a few minutes.
 

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That team had a good starting lineup.

Weiler-Babb (a good college PG, excellent size for his position)
Jackson (one of the better shooters in school history)
Wigginton (quickly becoming an elite college SG)
Young (a good complementary big man to Lard in boxing out and in the P&R game)
Lard (energy and a menace on the offensive boards)

Not the best defensive lineup, but it was fun and could score.

The bench just wasn't very good...

Talley (had a few skills but such a poor shooter it was hard to play him)
Beverly (the "three-point sniper" who went 9/38 for 23.7% from three)
Lewis (the other "three-point sniper" who went 17/59 for 28.8% from three)
Long (seemed like a nice kid but not a Big 12 player)
Brase (would have probably been very good if healthy... just wasn't healthy)

Give that team two good bench guards who can chew up minutes and I bet it makes the NCAA tournament. I don't think it's going to compete for the conference title, but it could have been dangerous.

They had a frustrating start to Big 12 play, too. Lost a lot of close games...

View attachment 123625

Finish off Texas and Oklahoma State and nab a huge upset in Lawrence (and yeah yeah I know easier said than done but it was tied with three minutes left to play) to go 4-1 to open up the conference slate... don't get ripped apart by injuries in the last third of the season... have one or two more guards (or even just a healthy Brase who can probably play a "4" position opposite the other big men with one more guard) who can spell the starters at an acceptable level of productivity... squint and you can see an #8 seed and the Ro32.

Alas, nope. Sorry for the long reminiscence. I enjoyed that team and was disappointed it never had a chance to really see what it could do from a lack of depth and numerous injuries.
Don't disagree, but a big issue there was Lard only playing 15 mpg. He averaged about a foul a minute. That makes the bench issues a much bigger deal.
 

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Even that though becomes impossible to understand when he goes to the dance almost every year at his next stop...often with less talented rosters than what I just linked. Brackins was an absolute stud at NCAA level and Garrett was probably underutilized.
It really isn't impossible to understand, he was terrible here. Couldn't cut it in the Big 12, much different than the Big East. It's like Colorado in the Pac-12.
 

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It really isn't impossible to understand, he was terrible here. Couldn't cut it in the Big 12, much different than the Big East. It's like Colorado in the Pac-12.

Back in those days I thought of the Big East as comparable, even now with SUPER BIG 12 it's probably the #2 conference.
 

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