This is why I'm not 100% sold that Hoke is gone. 85-90% sure, but Meechigan fan is a special breed of stupid by which I'm surrounded.
Brady Hoke is toast
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This is why I'm not 100% sold that Hoke is gone. 85-90% sure, but Meechigan fan is a special breed of stupid by which I'm surrounded.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Casteel
Jeff Casteel has put out good defenses. Not great, but good. The idea that RR teams never play defense is incorrect. While at Michigan, which is what mattered, they didn't. I don't know why Shaffer didn't work. Some say RR was meddling in the defense. The one thing that really pisses me off is that RR was never given what Hoke was given to get coordinators. RR needed a glorified assistant at OC and they still wouldn't give him money to get get a DC. Hoke was pretty much given blank checks and he brings Al Borges. He was given enough money to get an NFL coordinator. The ****** thing is that just as RR was being fired, Casteel got run out and would have been available.
Add on to that RR had his offense set up as far as personnel and I have a hard time believing they wouldn't have been good down the road. Look at 2011. 11-2 team. Now you have a team that won't make a bowl. They didn't go 11-2 because of Hoke. They went 11-2 because there was just enough residual coaching to make the offense somehow do something and a DC that could get them there. People won't believe me on Devin Gardner and that's fine but he would have been a destroyer under RR. Add on to it the skill guys RR was going to get and that offense would have been incredible.
Deace thought Michigan was going to be good this year, the Big Ten would be as good as the Big 12, and Iowa would go 10-2 against ISU's top 5 schedule.
So there's a local case illustrating how idiotic Michigan fans can be.
His preseason podcast with Miller this year could not be packed with more stupid if it was intentional.
Kingsbury will get the home town leniency.
To be honest, that's probably also the only reason that Hoke wasn't let go after the concussion incident.
I thought Michigan would be pretty good. Not top 10 good but top 15-20ish good. They have all the talent to win a championship. They have a **** philosophy. "We are going to run the ball, completely ignore any new offensive concepts and play defense. Nevermind we have a guy who would destroy people if he was set up for success. Oh, and also, we are going to run a 90s punt formation. One that gives any decent returner a great chance at housing us because I believe that there is only one way to play and that's slow."I underestimated the destructive powers that Brady Hoke has. He talks about toughness and they're incredibly soft. That's the most disappointing part. They have no edge.
I like Brady Hoke and for a year he had me convinced. In hindsight a lot of Michigan fans saw this coming when he was hired. Take one look at his resume and you can see he's not a big time coach. Hell, I don't even think he's a small time coach.
It's why Michigan St. fans are growing on me a bit. If it weren't for 2000, they might be more of a secondary team for me to cheer for. A few more years and they might be - especially if my daughter makes them her secondary team/her school (I raised her right - she's a Cyclone through and through).
No offense, but hiring a guy who didn't believe in putting real effort into defense was stupid. Acting like keeping him would have made Michigan a perennial conf championship contender was stupid. Archaic offense? Alabama won 3 championships in 4 years running that "archaic" offense. And that "archaic offense" has produced more NFL talent than any Michigan team since. Stupid indeed.
Rich Rod showed no indications of hiring a DC that was worth a **** and that is what really cost him. Had he brought in a Mattison he would have won 2-3 more games each season and the "good ol boys" wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.
You can toss in any conspiracy theory you want, but when it comes down to it if you want to coach Michigan you better damn well win games and be in contention for the conference championship every year. Rich Rod didn't even sniff that and with his lack of attention defensively, and the fact that his teams were still EASILY dominated by at least the top 3 or 4 teams in the conference, there was no reason to believe he'd get there. And that is why he is gone.
RR brought in Robinson... Who was just a terrible hire to begin with. You going to tell us that there wasn't ANY other DC option out there that could have come in at the same pay and do a better job? I'm sorry, but hiring Robinson is ultimately what cost Rich Rod his job, just like hiring Hoke will be why Brandon will lose his.
And I agree that Gardner should be a freaking star. Had he gone to Ohio St he would be.
Michigan needs to get back to running a pro-style offense and playing great defense. Sadly, the Rich Rod era and subsequent Hoke era is going to cost more time and will require more patience to right the ship.
Believe it or not, I don't even get mad watching Michigan any more and missing a game doesn't bother me. I do want them to get back to prominence however. Been a fan since about '88 when I was in grade school.
Being a Michigan fan means when you win it's expected and when you lose it's like the world is going to end. It's unreasonable. It's sort of like beig a hawk fan except hawks don't have conference championships, national championships, tradition, notoriety, or any real significance year in and year out. Except for the last 8 or so years Michigan has been where they are. Even then, Michigan still has those things Hawk fans can only have wet dreams about.
I enjoy being a Cyclone much more even though it's often a kick in the nuts.
His "resume?" You must have missed his years at Ball State and then San Diego State - completely turned both programs around - from the bottom to the top. It's the reason he was hired.
I've enjoyed the false narrative that Michigan fans are running with now, that Hoke was completely unqualified from the get go and that Rich Rod was turning the corner and it was only the administration couldn't see it. Because nothing says turning the corner like losing six of your last eight games, all by 10+ points, and closing the year by losing to Ohio St and Mississippi St by a combined score of 89-21.
"Pro-style offense." The dumbest term in football currently. A lot of pro teams are running out of the shotgun and incorporation concepts the college guys incorporated 10 years ago. You run an offense that works. If your goal is to run the ball up the middle all day every day no matter if it works or not, you get Michigan of last year. If you goal is to do things that directly go against your strengths, such as run concepts that require very solid consistent blocking but you don't have that, you will not win. In short, if you have Devin Gardner and Denard Robinson you better base an offense around their ability to run.
Nope, I included them in his losing record before getting to Michigan. In fact, he had only 2 seasons above .500 at Ball State. He hired junk a moron OC and he hired a great DC and his team at Michigan has sucked for at least 2 years. He has no idea how to evolve his football philosophy and is a coach made for The MAC or somewhere else where his philosophy fits. It's not in a BCS conference.
He wasn't qualified. No top tier school in the country would have hired Brady Hoke at that time except Michigan. I said it then. It should have been so easy to see but the 11-2 season turned everyone and things looked great. Then it all came crashing down. At least RRs win totals were going up and, really, so was recruiting. BTW- He did all of this with freshmen and sophomore QBs. Hoke hasn't had a QB younger than a junior except for 3 games.
Pretty pathetic Rich Rod only won 6 Big 10 games in 3 years at Michigan. Also hiring Greg Robinson at D-Coordinator was a total failure. Most everyone knew it would be even at the time.
Deace said Iowa would go 8-4 with ISU's schedule. Also, while that is still moronic, not many thought Iowa would regress at the beginning of the year.
