Has there been any discussion about the legality of the blocked kick? TT player clearly climbed onto the back of his own player.
Blocked FG
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There has been none. Thanks for bringing it to the board's attention.
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I thought it should not have counted, not only did the TT player use the another player to get leverage, it looked like he jumped over one of our players. Both illegal.
This had more to do with our crappy blocking technique on kicks which we need to abandon. Our linemen have been taught to just bend over in your stance and stay that way until the ball is kicked. Per the picture above, our down linemen have not moved. This blocking has led to all of our blocked kicks the last few years, as the defense just jumps over us.
On this play, I also thought the defender used his own men to lift himself up, but in slow motion replay you can see that one TTU limeman puts his weight on top of the ISU lineman and flattens our guy downward some. At the same time, the defender next to him reaches over and puts his hands on the backs of our hunched over linemen. This allows him to leapfrog over our guys and through the hole created by his teammate. Did not climb on the back of his own player. Easy block.
In the picture you can see the defender's left arm with his hand on our guy's butt. Exact same thing TCU did to us, maybe 3 years ago I think, also for a touchdown. . Opponents see our technique on film and develop a plan to get right over the top of that crappy line blocking. We have to stop using that technique. Make me assistant head coach for a week!
On this play, I also thought the defender used his own men to lift himself up, but in slow motion replay you can see that one TTU limeman puts his weight on top of the ISU lineman and flattens our guy downward some. At the same time, the defender next to him reaches over and puts his hands on the backs of our hunched over linemen. This allows him to leapfrog over our guys and through the hole created by his teammate. Did not climb on the back of his own player. Easy block.
In the picture you can see the defender's left arm with his hand on our guy's butt. Exact same thing TCU did to us, maybe 3 years ago I think, also for a touchdown. . Opponents see our technique on film and develop a plan to get right over the top of that crappy line blocking. We have to stop using that technique. Make me assistant head coach for a week!
A single still image is probably not going to tell the whole story. At the time it seemed like he just jumped through the gap in our linemen.
I was in the endzone and I didn’t hear any chatter about it. Kick trajectory seemed really low on that and extra pints to follow
The TT player is jumping over the line, using his team mate to gain leverage, its an illegal play. When attempting a kick block, you are not allowed to use another player to gain height or jump over the Oline.
Two came from the same gap
Here's a good angle @2;12, he jumps over the snapper into Hudson's gap
That ineligible call was annoying, but the one last week was an incorrect call.
Well I would tend to blame it on crappy blocking more than anything.
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The guy in Hudson's gap did not appear to block the kick. The snapper is considered vulnerable so you can not line up over him. You can not also expect him to get in a position to do much in the way of blocking. Thus linemen are almost always taught to protect their inside gap. Hudson did this. The guy on his inside got some penetration and a hand up, but did not block the ball. The guy who came through his outside gap blocked the ball. The guy lined up to Hudson's right should have done more to stop penetration through this gap. It looked like that he got engaged first by a guy head up on him and wasn't able to do enough to protect his inside gap when a 2nd defender came through.
We won, covered the spread, and may have the best Cyclone team ever. I am just glad to get to attend games.
But it is good to know that bad things can happen and the Cyclones still WIN. Not the case in most of my years as a Cyclone fan.
But it is good to know that bad things can happen and the Cyclones still WIN. Not the case in most of my years as a Cyclone fan.
How many extra pints?
#53, who blocked it, put his hands on two ISU linemen and pushes off from their backs, not his own man, and the angle from behind shows he didn’t step on a teammate.
Not an illegal play.
Agree. I watched it several times in slow-mo, and I only saw #53 push down on two ISU linemen - I don't think either was the long-snapper (but can't tell for 100% sure as they don't start the video before the snap). #53 kind of put his arm down right next to his teammates helmet so if you don't look real carefully it can kind of look like he's pushing down on his teammate, but I sure don't think so.
As far as I can tell, this is a legal play with a ton of luck for Tech -- ISU linemen reacted a split second slow to the snap, the kick was low, defender randomly threw his hand up and it was the exact right spot, and bounced right into the hands of a speedy defender who wasn't rushing too aggressively and not engaged in a block.
Didn't see it live but just watched the highlights...it was close.
Of course it would land right in that kid's hands though.
All I got out of it was it's cool that ISU could still win so controlled after a big win and I wish they'd show more camera angles that are that all-field view.
Of course it would land right in that kid's hands though.
All I got out of it was it's cool that ISU could still win so controlled after a big win and I wish they'd show more camera angles that are that all-field view.
The kid that blocked it came in over the B gap between the right guard and tackle, TT had 3 guys in A and B gap, the first guy hit the tackle low, the guy that blocked the kick dove over the pile in the B gap. His right hand is on the right guard if ISU, its hard to tell whether he pushed off the lower TT player and then slide down to the back of the ISU tackle or not, but after watching it 10 times in slow motion, I think he did push off his own player and then slide his hand down to the ISU tackle.
Without a doubt the kick was low, but it all happened so fast it would be hard for the refs to see it and call it illegal as the TT player was diving over the line.
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