Watching future ISU QB Connor Moberly ! He is damn good. Will be solid challenge to Kohl next year - has wheels!
Big 12 Conference Realignment
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Are you saying that Texas can be a problem?
"Can you both lose?"
Let's see, who beat OU at home last year? That's where I'd like to see him make his next pep talk from!
"And I'll be there, in Norman, to watch you take care of business again!"
That would be awesome if he were to do that!
If there was ever a conference that needed to be disbanded, it was the SWC at that time. The disparity between the private schools (Rice, SMU, TCU, Baylor) and UT/aggy was immense on several counts and made worse by being isolated within one state after Arkansas left. Houston was also an outlier as a commuter school. Both Tech and Baylor were lucky that the TX Governor and Lt Gov were grads of those two schools and got them in the B12. Baylor and TCU both successfully pooled donor money and hired coaches (Patterson, Briles) to build and stay competitive in the B12 to their credit.
I can still see Greg Coleman fumbling into the end zone. Man 2005 was such a missed opportunity.For sure, Baylor road winless streak ended vs Iowa State.
If the BU road streak had to end in Ames, that was the worst season for it occur.
Texas made a huge mistake, IMO, by not going elsewhere right after World War II
You're correct that ISU was first team BU beat as member of B12. I had forgotten about that. As for Baylor being winless in first four seasons, you're close enough.
These are BU's Big 12 wins in first decade of the conference.
1996: Iowa State
1997: Texas
1998: Kansas
1999: (None)
2000: (None)
2001: (None)
2002: Kansas
2003: Colorado
2004: Texas A&M
2005: at Iowa State, Oklahoma State
Army won the A.P. National Championship in 1945.
OSU finished 5th in the final A.P. Poll.
1945 Final Football Polls | College Poll Archive
The CU 30 for 30 about McCartney and that decade of buffs football is fascinating. Watch it if you haven’t. A lot of stuff I hadn’t known or remembered about that eraArmy won the A.P. National Championship in 1945.
OSU finished 5th in the final A.P. Poll.
1945 Final Football Polls | College Poll Archive
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Some of the national championships teams claim, should come with an asterisk. Texas claims the 1970 Natty, yet lost the cotton bowl by 13 points to Notre Dame. The coaches poll had Texas No. 1 after the end of the regular season, but Texas, because of the loss, fell to No. 3. The next year, the coaches poll was after the end of the bowl season.
And go back and look at the BYU natty. They ended up being number 1 but played NO ONE. Even in the holiday bowl they beat a 6-win Michigan team.
I checked the Big 8, Big 10 and SEC and BYU picked the right year to go undefeated. In the SEC, Florida won the conference, but was ineligible for any bowl because of violations. They started the season with a loss and a tie. In the Big 8, Oklahoma lost to Kansas, a week after almost getting beat by Iowa State. And Ohio State got beat by Purdue. So you would be hard-pressed not to pick BYU.
Should give Van Buren County, Iowa a medal for having the foresight of kicking out a future confederate general, future governor and future Texas A and M founder.
It was pretty much that farce of 1984 and BYU being "champions" that pissed off enough of the big hitters/heavy rollers in CFB so that they were inspired to create the BCS so that garbage couldn't happen again.
As people are pointing out in comparing Whittingham's legendary tenure at Utah compared to LaVell Edwards record at BYU - Edwards never had to compete in a decent league. His teams routinely beat up and Ran up the scores on crappy WAC teams, all in the name of making his QBs look good, and himself good by extension. Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon.. that era.
NO ONE outside their little insane world considers that a valid championship..
Utah was arguably to a good number of people more of a champion in 2008/9 especially after thrashing Alabama at what was arguably an Alabama home game.
Sadly, as long as it remains effectively a popularity contest of voting for either press or coaches, we'll continue to have the occasional champion that cause massive controversy. Even with this farce of a playoff, it is still a COMMITTEE of biased people that select the participants and then stacks the deck through seeding. For all of it's madness and complexity, people rarely complain about the BB champions, since that system is only really subject to the seeding cabal. But the tournament design does allow for cinderellas to pop up quite regularly. CFB will never be free of the fatally corrupting influence of massive $$ contracts. It has been a process, but the death of the PAC is only the latest crime of conference obliteration coming from the Football gold rush.
Look, Utah is a great university and athletic dept. Beautiful city and campus. Heck, both of my kids were born in utah. But y’all were in the WAC with byu for 37 years and almost all the same time as LaVell Edwards coached. It’d be like us saying Nebraska and OU were only good because the rest of the big 8 sucked. That was right. We did suck for decades, sadly. As did the rest of the conference for the most part.
Your take on the CFP is spot on. I hope they come to a good solution in the future. You have to understand the big 12 is a conference of bridesmaids. We are a conference of little brothers. We are survivors. But for for the holy war we’re gonna poke the bear….we’ll tell you the BYU natty was a joke and tell the BYU crowd to rub it in that they got one. Go Utes my friend.
Your take on the CFP is spot on. I hope they come to a good solution in the future. You have to understand the big 12 is a conference of bridesmaids. We are a conference of little brothers. We are survivors. But for for the holy war we’re gonna poke the bear….we’ll tell you the BYU natty was a joke and tell the BYU crowd to rub it in that they got one. Go Utes my friend.
