Better Call Saul

cytheguy

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I actually like Chuck's character. Especially after last night. Showed that he's capable of a little mischief himself. (Seems their parents favored and or enabled Jimmy, and Chuck resents that.) I'm curious to find out what brought Chuck's condition on. I wonder if it had something to do with his wife. Like she died of cancer or something and he blames the waves of electric currents and signals all around us. That, or she left him because he went crazy or left him and it sent him over the edge.


Regarding the finale, it wasn't bad ... just not the type of finale that left my jaw on the floor like last week's episode. Could it have been the gun dealer that left the note? Or tipped Nacho or even Gus off?
 

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This would be a good episode mid-season but I'm with the group that thinks it was a bad season finale. There was no legitimate hint of Jimmy becoming Saul. No closure with Chuck, just a continuance of the same ole Chuck being a ****. The Mike thing was left wide open with no hint of an end to his situation. There was no "drop the mic" type of point in the story line. No real cliffhanger.

This should have been the episode leading up to a finale.
 

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I'm guessing that Chuck doesn't move forward with the criminal indictment of Jimmy. But he tells Jimmy that he can no longer practice as a McGill. Whether Jimmy comes up with the Saul angle as a gimmick or whether it's just agreed to between brothers.

I like hearing from the producers/writers on the Talking Saul shows after the episode. Those guys are brilliant.
 

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Is everyone conditioned to expect a bombshell in every season finale? Lots of shows set up the storyline for the next season in the finale (e.g. Game of Thrones). And I thought Chuck recording him was a pretty big moment. To each his own though.
 

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I figured it was Nacho, but was Nacho near the truck driver that got shot? Or was that Tuco standing in front of Hector? Maybe it was Gus's guys, ohh man, that would be awesome.

Isn't Tuco in prison? That was Nacho accidentally shielding Hector.

I also think the note is directly or indirectly from Gus. This is how Mike and Gus hook up.

Chuck is one grade A *******. Guess this is how we get Saul. Chuck forces Jimmy to leave the law (as a McGill).
 

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Is everyone conditioned to expect a bombshell in every season finale? Lots of shows set up the storyline for the next season in the finale (e.g. Game of Thrones). And I thought Chuck recording him was a pretty big moment. To each his own though.

I agree about the Chuck thing, I think that was a huge moment for his character development. Sure he was a jerk, but he always did everything above the board. And then he sets up Jimmy in a pretty elaborate plot to get his confession. I wonder when Chuck hatched the plan, was his induced catatonic state part of it?
 

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I agree about the Chuck thing, I think that was a huge moment for his character development. Sure he was a jerk, but he always did everything above the board. And then he sets up Jimmy in a pretty elaborate plot to get his confession. I wonder when Chuck hatched the plan, was his induced catatonic state part of it?

I think what Chuck did was above board. And he needed to do it, for his well being. Now, I am not a fan of Chuck, because we all love Jimmy. But in a real world, Chuck is the better person.
 

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I think what Chuck did was above board. And he needed to do it, for his well being. Now, I am not a fan of Chuck, because we all love Jimmy. But in a real world, Chuck is the better person.

That depends on how you define "better person". Chuck's constant resentment and belittlement of Jimmy to me is a far bigger issue than Jimmy cutting corners trying to make things better for people he cares about.
 

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That depends on how you define "better person". Chuck's constant resentment and belittlement of Jimmy to me is a far bigger issue than Jimmy cutting corners trying to make things better for people he cares about.

Good point. Chuck is better on the legal, by the book side of things. Jimmy seems to have way more empathy and care more for the people around him, including his brother Chuck. Jimmy would do about anything to help Chuck personally with his problem, while Chuck screwed Jimmy over with HHM and intentionally decided to keep Kim from getting the Mesa Verde account, I believe solely because he found out she was going to be sharing an office with Jimmy. I don't think he would have done that just to save a client for HHM, or to screw Kim if her new practice had nothing to do with Jimmy.
 

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If you don't watch Talking Saul, they pointed out that fans noticed that the first letters from this season's episode titles form an anagram: Fring's back.
 

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If you don't watch Talking Saul, they pointed out that fans noticed that the first letters from this season's episode titles form an anagram: Fring's back.
That's awesome.
 

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I don't think you can record someone with out them knowing and use it in court can you? That would make Jimmy's "confession" worthless.
 

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I think what Chuck did was above board. And he needed to do it, for his well being. Now, I am not a fan of Chuck, because we all love Jimmy. But in a real world, Chuck is the better person.

I don't think I can agree with this. Chuck has done a lot of really mean things to Jimmy, and will hurt anyone just to hurt Jimmy, and all Jimmy does is take care of Chuck, constantly. Chuck is exceptionally jealous of the fact that his parents, his wife, and people in general like Jimmy, and he goes out of his way to discredit Jimmy at every turn, even when Jimmy was trying to do the straight and narrow for a long time.

The mom scene was pretty telling, and we still don't know the backstory of how his parents paid for Chuck's college, which many believe was Jimmy's doing.
 

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Not exactly sure.
When chuck asked jimmy if he was telling him the truth or to make him feel better. He originally said to make him feel better. The confession does contradict itself when you go through it.
 

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When chuck asked jimmy if he was telling him the truth or to make him feel better. He originally said to make him feel better. The confession does contradict itself when you go through it.
I was thinking this too as I rewatched the episode last night.