Beaty files lawsuit against KU
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It was hilarious when one of their players admitted it. He said KU came out of the tunnel and saw more ISU fans than KU fans.
People tend to spend up to 99% of their income levels, and don't have the ability to scale backwards.
Why is Kansas making it less and less desirable to be the head football coach? Les isn't getting any younger and even so he's got a long ways to go before Kansas is even respectable. Aside from being an already flaming dumpster fire program, who would want to work for an AD who will look for ways to fire you for cause if you don't win?
You are replying to the Amish, they just hold off on a new buggy whip for a year.
I don't believe Ku will give on this with a settlement. They'll take it all the way to court. But Beaty has nothing to lose as his lawyers are surely working on contingency.
That said, Long throwing shade over Beaty getting another job is pretty lame to my way of thinking.
That said, Long throwing shade over Beaty getting another job is pretty lame to my way of thinking.
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https://247sports.com/college/kansa...pound-sand-on-his-summary-judgment-146091413/
From the KU message board:
Poster: "Who hires Beaty as an Uber driver"?
Reply: "No ***". He would leave the clock running.. "
Here's an interesting take from a Ku poster on their Phog board.
But the decision to settle will be based on costs to defend, the uncertainty of the outcome and more importantly, the fact the appeals judge upheld the order to compel response to discovery requests that Ku is trying to keep under wraps. Including and especially as it pertains to the NCAA basketball allegations. IMO, this was a critical ruling in the case. Beaty's attorneys expected the judge to rule against the summary motion. The filing of it is pretty much a formality n these proceedings. The other challenge for Ku, as I pointed out previously, was the risk they took in going around the judge and arguing she misapplied the law. Now, they get to back in front of the judge after being pretty roundly ****** slapped by the appeals judge in her order. Generally a place you don't want to find yourself in, in terms of winning favor with the judge.
Ku's costs and risks both just grew significantly. Ku has the burden of proof in demonstrating/supporting their contention they would have fired him for cause had they known about the alleged violations. And, they must risk releasing information re the NCAA basketball violations they would rather not risk.
Indeed they will settle.
But the decision to settle will be based on costs to defend, the uncertainty of the outcome and more importantly, the fact the appeals judge upheld the order to compel response to discovery requests that Ku is trying to keep under wraps. Including and especially as it pertains to the NCAA basketball allegations. IMO, this was a critical ruling in the case. Beaty's attorneys expected the judge to rule against the summary motion. The filing of it is pretty much a formality n these proceedings. The other challenge for Ku, as I pointed out previously, was the risk they took in going around the judge and arguing she misapplied the law. Now, they get to back in front of the judge after being pretty roundly ****** slapped by the appeals judge in her order. Generally a place you don't want to find yourself in, in terms of winning favor with the judge.
Ku's costs and risks both just grew significantly. Ku has the burden of proof in demonstrating/supporting their contention they would have fired him for cause had they known about the alleged violations. And, they must risk releasing information re the NCAA basketball violations they would rather not risk.
Indeed they will settle.
After reading about the case, I couldn't disagree more.
1) Beatty wasn't expecting to lose the entirety of their arguments as it pertains to the summary judgment motion but they did. This is a big problem for Beatty because the main thing that Beatty wanted to establish was the contract did not allow KU to retroactively fire for cause and the court rejected that argument because the language in the contract left open that possibility. Now that he lost that argument the only thing he can do now is try to argue that his violations weren't enough to be fired for cause. But I am sure that the contract contains specific grounds on what 'cause' is defined as. As long as that definition is met, they can fire him.
2) The discovery only relates to how the university punished coaches for other violations. So really, nothing much to see there.
3) Beatty was contending there was no evidence he was involved in allowing non coaches to coach. That went terribly wrong when in depositions it was revealed that Beatty started not liking Meachum but instead of firing him he just had a non coaching assistant start coaching the QBs secretly in meetings that Meachum wasn't informed of.
I have no clue. Haven't been following the case as closely as Jayhawk fans. But the cut&paste I posted above was written by a legal expert who works contract law professionally. He feels pretty strongly that Ku will settle out of court because among other things they don't want Beaty to have access to the NCAA/FBI/MBB filings. Time will tell.
I think #2 is a big deal. What basketball violations have been discovered, reported, not reported, and that what kind of punishments were applied, summarily ignored, etc.
Right. But does KU want that coming out in discovery? It seems like it could give Beatty some settlement leverage.
Actually, I tend to believe a Ku guy who says he's a legal expert and argues against Ku over a Ku guy claiming to be a lawyer who argues for Ku. As I said, we'll see how it plays out. I don't know. Losing a summary judgment hardly suggests anything other than the judge wants to see the process proceed. I hope you come back to explain if it gets settled out-of-court or if Beaty wins in court.
In this case, wouldn't he then just need to show that Self committed worse infractions without being fired for cause? That could be an interesting day in court. The admittance of the violations around DeSousa shoud be enough to show that violations have not been cause for termination in the past for KU.
The judge seems intent on making Beaty out the hero. I don't get it. What Beaty did should stand on its own merits not be measured against what somebody else did at Ku. Ku may very well lose this case as if they haven't already completely lost credibility as anything approaching an ethical collegiate athletics program. So much energy and money lost over a putrid football program. Good lord.
The raw, unedited footage of the “Miles to Go” documentary that profiled coach Les Miles’ first season at the helm of KU football can be subpoenaed and used as evidence in the case of former coach David Beaty’s disputed firing, a U.S. magistrate judge ruled Tuesday.
Beaty’s team of attorneys has argued in previous legal filings that unaired footage from the ESPN+ documentary series will show University of Kansas Athletic Director Jeff Long planning to fire the coach, who went 6-42 in four seasons with KU, before the fall 2018 season began.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2020/apr/28/judge-rules-miles-go-footage-2019-practice-film-ca/
The raw, unedited footage of the “Miles to Go” documentary that profiled coach Les Miles’ first season at the helm of KU football can be subpoenaed and used as evidence in the case of former coach David Beaty’s disputed firing, a U.S. magistrate judge ruled Tuesday.
Beaty’s team of attorneys has argued in previous legal filings that unaired footage from the ESPN+ documentary series will show University of Kansas Athletic Director Jeff Long planning to fire the coach, who went 6-42 in four seasons with KU, before the fall 2018 season began.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2020/apr/28/judge-rules-miles-go-footage-2019-practice-film-ca/
