Average Joe Cyclone Fan contribute to NIL

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YeahBut you get a free one after 10

They day Casey's went online with that stuff and got rid of the cardboard tokens is the day their service started waning. Prove me wrong.
 

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They day Casey's went online with that stuff and got rid of the cardboard tokens is the day their service started waning. Prove me wrong.
Okay, I will. I sucked before the online. Crappy service before can’t really go down much.
 

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And when blue bloods match that or better without hardly lifting a finger?
You’re right, we won’t ever be able to walk up to a recruit and say “whatever Kentucky offers, we’ll double it.” That doesn’t make our fanbase less cheap.

We could get to a point, with relative ease, where the cornerstone of our basketball team doesn’t walk away without a team picked because he knows he can make more money virtually anywhere in the country.
 
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All about priorities - could literally eat a couple PBJ sandwiches opposed to Burger King for lunch once a month to free up $5 for it. If 50,000 fans make an equivalent change that's a massive opportunity for Iowa State athletics.
 
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All about priorities - could literally eat a couple PBJ sandwiches opposed to Burger King for lunch once a month to free up $5 for it. If 50,000 fans make an equivalent change that's a massive opportunity for Iowa State athletics.

What are we getting in return? Are the players going to come wash my car for my $5? What kind of person pays money for something that they get nothing back. It’s like giving money to panhandlers.

You’ve got it all backwards. Stop giving money to the panhandlers and they go away.
 

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Our alumni base isnt large enough or rich enough to compete. Penn state has 700k alumni. We have around 250k. We need to on average donate triple to compete. Unless some billionaire suddenly decides that ISU being good at sports is their new pet project ( rather than just buying a pro team that will make them money) we dont stand a chance.

Frankly, there are waaaay more important things my money can be doing than supporting an 18 year old who already has free food, housing, and schooling.
 

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Will there be an opportunity for the average fan to contribute to an NIL fund for Iowa State players? If not, someone needs to get one going. Most of us aren’t millionaires or even close to that, but I’m sure we could get a large number of average joe fans to donate to an NIL fund. I hope this option is available. I would love to donate and, knowing our rabid fan base, I’m sure others would as well.


I Have two kids who are going to need used cars and college money in the next few years. Not going to donate to college players already getting a free ride who more than likely will be making way more money than me in the near future. Pass.
 
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Ya, add a few zeros. There’s a tipping point where what amounts to buying players is going to turn a bunch of people off. I don’t want to have all the ******** of being an owner of a team yet getting none of the benefits of owning a team. I’m not going to further this stupid arc by participating willingly in it.

I laughed a little bit at this (including at myself) as this is the pinnacle of an Iowan-response. But it's so on point.

No matter how much we donate it won't be enough. The "blue bloods" will always offer more money. On one hand I laugh at those Alabama football, or KU/UK/UNC "fans" who's ego's are so fragile they have to have their team at the top every year. But on the other hand, the universities know that it's good business as tshirt sales and enrollment go up.

But this current NIL stuff just feels so torrid. It's an arms-race that just feels gross. Reading through this list shows that donations to the university will generally be cut to shuffle money to the kids. But what happens to the bench players, the long snappers and kickers, etc. At some point, they're all going to need paid (and maybe should be). At some point it becomes untenable to spread across all sports, and I'm guessing that some non-revenue sports will need to be cut due to funding shortfalls.
 
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I laughed a little bit at this (including at myself) as this is the pinnacle of an Iowan-response. But it's so on point.

No matter how much we donate it won't be enough. The "blue bloods" will always offer more money. On one hand I laugh at those Alabama football, or KU/UK/UNC "fans" who's ego's are so fragile they have to have their team at the top every year. But on the other hand, the universities know that it's good business as tshirt sales and enrollment go up.

But this current NIL stuff just feels so torrid. It's an arms-race that just feels gross. Reading through this list shows that donations to the university will generally be cut to shuffle money to the kids. But what happens to the bench players, the long snappers and kickers, etc. At some point, they're all going to need paid (and maybe should be). At some point it becomes untenable to spread across all sports, and I'm guessing that some non-revenue sports will need to be cut due to funding shortfalls.

You know what that’s a great point. Does anyone know how I can donate directly to the Soccer Team and Golf Teams?
 
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What are we getting in return? Are the players going to come wash my car for my $5? What kind of person pays money for something that they get nothing back. It’s like giving money to panhandlers.

You’ve got it all backwards. Stop giving money to the panhandlers and they go away.
Agreed. I think everyone should consider why they are paying this money and where it is going before they donate to NIL collectives. If you decide to donate to the collective, so be it, but I would rather put my money toward educating and feeding kids in Africa or Bolivia than to spend money buying a "better player" (especially when those kids were already getting free room, board, and tuition from the school).

I love watching a great product on the court or field as much as the next person, but if it's about priorities, I definitely know where mine are. I grew up playing football on the hills when we were awful, and I enjoyed those times frankly just about as much as I do these.
 

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Agreed. I think everyone should consider why they are paying this money and where it is going before they donate to NIL collectives. If you decide to donate to the collective, so be it, but I would rather put my money toward educating and feeding kids in Africa or Bolivia than to spend money buying a "better player" (especially when those kids were already getting free room, board, and tuition from the school).

I love watching a great product on the court or field as much as the next person, but if it's about priorities, I definitely know where mine are. I grew up playing football on the hills when we were awful, and I enjoyed those times frankly just about as much as I do these.

And “NIL Collective” sounds like the beginning of a 60 Minutes Special. “They raised over $500,000.00 in hopes of bringing in the best BBall players in the country, the players say they didn’t receive anything more than McDonald’s gift cards and a bus pass. The “Collective” insisted that the deposits would be made in to the players accounts, but they never came. Where did the money go? Who did the money go to? The players, and the people that donated to the Collective, want answers”
 
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And “NIL Collective” sounds like the beginning of a 60 Minutes Special. “They raised over $500,000.00 in hopes of bringing in the best BBall players in the country, the players say they didn’t receive anything more than McDonald’s gift cards and a bus pass. The “Collective” insisted that the deposits would be made in to the players accounts, but they never came. Where did the money go? Who did the money go to? The players, and the people that donated to the Collective, want answers”

With the people running this collective, I’m fairly positive that we won’t have white collar criminal activity occurring. But you have an agenda on this issue and you apparently see it as a black and white issue. I’m assuming that your expectations for our mens bball and fb program will fall in line with the resources they have compared to other teams in the conference.
 

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We have like the second largest alumni association membership in the B12. I rejoined this year after not for many years and I honestly can’t tell you what the point was. I received a calendar and a coffee tumbler (tumbler was for rejoining). Outside that, i don’t see a benefit there.

This means we have people giving $55 a year to get a calendar, maybe we can get $55 from the rest of the AA members if the club sends them a calendar also.
AA fund raises to perpetuate it's existence. One of those associations that spend most for administrative expenses. They attach themselves to AD for fundraising but nothing to support it.
Successful athletic programs raise the whole boat.
Foundation manages AD donations but no undesignated funds find there way to AD. Plenty for the butterfly house though and for big Reiman Gardens sign at entrance to Jack Trice. Even took parking away for maintanance facility.
 

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AA fund raises to perpetuate it's existence. One of those associations that spend most for administrative expenses. They attach themselves to AD for fundraising but nothing to support it.
Successful athletic programs raise the whole boat.
Foundation manages AD donations but no undesignated funds find there way to AD. Plenty for the butterfly house though and for big Reiman Gardens sign at entrance to Jack Trice. Even took parking away for maintanance facility.
So the AA doesn’t have much of a purpose it seems.
 

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If an average fan can’t give $5 a month ($60 year) ($.17 a day) to the NIL fund then we might as well accept an invitation to C-USA because that is where our fans (collectively) are willing to compete. Every little bit is going to count.

I can give, but I'm not going to.

1) I've made my feelings on athletes getting paid well known and I am not going to support something I don't agree with.

2) I already spent 80% of my money on something with no ROI so I am not going to spend my money on this.
 

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I'm gonna let you in on a secret those cds your grandparents get from npr are not worth a 200 dollars that they contribute
Lol, I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. My grandparents have been gone a long time and I don’t listen to NPR.

Guessing you are talking it’s just a fundraiser. With the NPR thing, you are at least getting radio you might enjoy. With the AA, it seems I just get Jeff Johnson to create a crappy cheer for us.
 

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I can give, but I'm not going to.

1) I've made my feelings on athletes getting paid well known and I am not going to support something I don't agree with.

2) I already spent 80% of my money on something with no ROI so I am not going to spend my money on this.
Your wife may not agree that she provides no ROI.
 
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