Audi Crooks to Transfer

That falls into unsubstantiated Rumor category #3 - "Bags" being thrown at all our players. Is the money really what the rumors say?

I have no knowledge of these things, nor do I subscribe to the Skim Milkey web page. I did read an article recently yesterday which cited Audi's NIL value at $400,000 - $450,000 and she's the #1 Ranked target in the portal. That's still tall cash but it's a far cry from the $2.5M you're citing.

Next, if Kevin Dresser is able to fund raise for the wrestling program to attract and retain talent, why can't highly-compensated 31 year veteran CBF get out there and beat the bushes? CBF should know 10X as many people as Kevin Dresser.

Apologies to the board - This is an Audi Crooks thread and I'll get off the CBF tangent. Audi is young and I don't expect perfect logic from her - I just hate to see a kid getting kicked around when the adult who enabled her gets a free pass.
Actually valid points. Audi is gone so be it. that's life.
If WBB was actually concerned about NIL paying players etc they would have gotten on board just like Dresser did. He and the wrestling fans realized the slice of the budget pie was going to get really thin by the time they got their piece so they did something about it. WBB has probably 5-6000 fans that show up consistently yr in and yr out. I expect attendance to be down this yr because of the loss of the big 3 with the main draw of that being Audi. She is likeable and was embraced by the fan base. Local girl made good =happy story fan favorite.

In the end for our Olympic sports programs to do well they are going to have to spend a fair amount of time fund raising in the future I would guess. The dollars are going to be spent on FB and MBB the programs that don't lose money. Does it suck yes, but the collegiate sports world has changed and that seems to be the new shift right now.
 
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So, something I read earlier in the thread...
If true that Audi was able to hop on a bike instead of sprints, that is pretty bad. Bill would be doing a disservice to both her and the team. If there was that kind of special treatment, what about off-season workouts? How much better of a player could she have been?
 
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Jezuz, I don't feel like calling you unintelligent, but I will. NOTHING I have typed as my opinion talks about how "relevant" she was, but seeing you're asking....I would think that all of us could agree (IF you know the definition of the word) that she was very relevant for Iowa State for sure. She brought alot of positive attention to our program which makes it even worse that she left, it's a bad look for us.

If a women's basketball player that didn't lead ISU to anything substantial, nor finish her career at ISU is the most relevant ISU athlete in history, than that is a sad look for ISU athletic history.
 
Why do we need to trash kids on their way out? Audi wasn’t a perfect player, those kids don’t come to Iowa State.

It didn’t work out. That happens.
Because as the world knows, once behind an alias and a screen - we all portray Einstein intelligence, and all sports encompassing athletic knowledge.
 
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So, something I read earlier in the thread...
If true that Audi was able to hop on a bike instead of sprints, that is pretty bad. Bill would be doing a disservice to both her and the team. If there was that kind of special treatment, what about off-season workouts? How much better of a player could she have been?
I saw Audi walking on a treadmill at the Planet Fitness in Ames last week.
 
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This thread is fascinating with the amount of vitriol being heaped on Audi. The Fennelly apologists have successfully steered blame for the mass exodus away from Bill, with unsubstantiated rumors of clubhouse drama (Audi's fault), player pay cuts (Jamie's fault) and a broken system where this is happening everywhere ("bags" being thrown at our players).

Bottom Line: Losing a two-time All American and a pair of McDonald's All American's from the ISU WBB Roster is CATASTROPHIC. It's Bill's fault, yet he's untouchable because he beat UCONN in 1999. Audi, Addy & Jada are #'s 1, 4 & 7 in the CBS WBB Portal Rankings. Our bench players (Williams, Beatty & Wilson) are being snapped up by historically above-average programs (Indiana, Mississippi State & Toledo). What has happened to us this offseason is unprecedented in terms of talent departure, and somebody (CBF) needs to answer for it. How his facilitation of "toxic culture" doesn't rise to "for cause" is beyond me - it's been enough for other athletic departments. I know Jamie will never fire him - at this point I'd settle for an honest / in depth Tommy Birch interview where CBF discussed this season / offseason.
I wouldn’t say it’s unprecedented. Bill ran his entire team off 3 years ago (the Lexi Donarski/Denae Fritz year). He went on KXNO, hit a couple softballs with Stansberry and was given an extension shortly thereafter (I think, but may be wrong). Any thing the Bill says at this point is just “Iowa State Way” BS and distraction. If that’s all he can or is willing to say about the issue, I’d rather him try to focus on the portal than slinging a bunch of crap. What I want is a concrete statement- confirmation that next year is Bill’s last year and we’re starting a nationwide search for the next coach. I have no interest in hearing Bill or Billy’s BS unless it’s that statement
 
I would not say it's Unprecedented at all. Not in this era. Ten years ago it would have been. Tennessee was better than us this year, ranked all year long and they lost every single player and every single recruit on their team. It wasn't a coaching turnover either. It was every single player. We actually kept more of our players I believe.
Again, this is an Audi Crooks transfer thread and should be about confirmed visits she's scheduled, how she fits with teams recruiting her, etc.

Having said that, your comments are interesting and I have a different "take" than you. I don't think you can compare ISU WBB to Tennessee WBB with a straight face. Tennessee participates in arguably the most competitive conference in the land and has the second bluest blood in the sport (behind UCONN) - they have no problem attracting talent in droves. They can afford to churn their roster and frankly need to - they're not competitive with South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, etc. They will recover and likely be better next year than last.

ISU had arguably the greatest assemblage of talent we've had since the 1999 & 2000 seasons and despite what many think, we're not a blue blood which can retool overnight. It's unprecedented for ISU to simultaneously have a two-time All American AND a pair of former McDonalds All Americans, both of whom had / have at one point been named First Team All Big XII. We lost them all and the immediate future (next two seasons) looks bleak. I'm out...
 
Again, this is an Audi Crooks transfer thread and should be about confirmed visits she's scheduled, how she fits with teams recruiting her, etc.

Having said that, your comments are interesting and I have a different "take" than you. I don't think you can compare ISU WBB to Tennessee WBB with a straight face. Tennessee participates in arguably the most competitive conference in the land and has the second bluest blood in the sport (behind UCONN) - they have no problem attracting talent in droves. They can afford to churn their roster and frankly need to - they're not competitive with South Carolina, LSU, Vanderbilt, etc. They will recover and likely be better next year than last.

ISU had arguably the greatest assemblage of talent we've had since the 1999 & 2000 seasons and despite what many think, we're not a blue blood which can retool overnight. It's unprecedented for ISU to simultaneously have a two-time All American AND a pair of former McDonalds All Americans, both of whom had / have at one point been named First Team All Big XII. We lost them all and the immediate future (next two seasons) looks bleak. I'm out...


I agree with some of what you are saying however, Tennessee womens basketball is becoming the Nebraska football of the womens college basketball world. I don't watch womens basketball. However, When i think of womens basketball i think of South Carolina and UConn now. I used to think Tennessee first, then UConn. Just my opinion. So I don't think they are attracting as much talent as you say. I think UConn, South Carolina, UCLA, and LSU are the ones in charge right now.
 
This thread is fascinating with the amount of vitriol being heaped on Audi. The Fennelly apologists have successfully steered blame for the mass exodus away from Bill, with unsubstantiated rumors of clubhouse drama (Audi's fault), player pay cuts (Jamie's fault) and a broken system where this is happening everywhere ("bags" being thrown at our players).

Bottom Line: Losing a two-time All American and a pair of McDonald's All American's from the ISU WBB Roster is CATASTROPHIC. It's Bill's fault, yet he's untouchable because he beat UCONN in 1999. Audi, Addy & Jada are #'s 1, 4 & 7 in the CBS WBB Portal Rankings. Our bench players (Williams, Beatty & Wilson) are being snapped up by historically above-average programs (Indiana, Mississippi State & Toledo). What has happened to us this offseason is unprecedented in terms of talent departure, and somebody (CBF) needs to answer for it. How his facilitation of "toxic culture" doesn't rise to "for cause" is beyond me - it's been enough for other athletic departments. I know Jamie will never fire him - at this point I'd settle for an honest / in depth Tommy Birch interview where CBF discussed this season / offseason.
Coach and players all contributed to the problem. To say it was all on one is a mistake.

Bottom line this bunch did not like playing with each other.
It's not rumor it's fact.
 
If a women's basketball player that didn't lead ISU to anything substantial, nor finish her career at ISU is the most relevant ISU athlete in history, than that is a sad look for ISU athletic history.
That’s not what was said. What was said is “the most NATIONALLY relevant”. And that may be true. (Troy Davis’ quest for back to back 2000 yard seasons is probably right there with her). But I’m going to contend the “national relevance” might have had some underlying reasons that had more to do with the current pop culture than just basketball. Cause watching this team play was painful.
 
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This thread is fascinating with the amount of vitriol being heaped on Audi. The Fennelly apologists have successfully steered blame for the mass exodus away from Bill, with unsubstantiated rumors of clubhouse drama (Audi's fault), player pay cuts (Jamie's fault) and a broken system where this is happening everywhere ("bags" being thrown at our players).

Bottom Line: Losing a two-time All American and a pair of McDonald's All American's from the ISU WBB Roster is CATASTROPHIC. It's Bill's fault, yet he's untouchable because he beat UCONN in 1999. Audi, Addy & Jada are #'s 1, 4 & 7 in the CBS WBB Portal Rankings. Our bench players (Williams, Beatty & Wilson) are being snapped up by historically above-average programs (Indiana, Mississippi State & Toledo). What has happened to us this offseason is unprecedented in terms of talent departure, and somebody (CBF) needs to answer for it. How his facilitation of "toxic culture" doesn't rise to "for cause" is beyond me - it's been enough for other athletic departments. I know Jamie will never fire him - at this point I'd settle for an honest / in depth Tommy Birch interview where CBF discussed this season / offseason.
What's really "fascinating" about this thread is the people who are taking sides solely on their opinion of Bill and/or their obvious affiliation with Audi.
 
What's really "fascinating" about this thread is the people who are taking sides solely on their opinion of Bill and/or their obvious affiliation with Audi.

The Fan/Audi Crooks/CBF/team dynamics present a three-body problem: hurt and rejection, social-media-driven self-involvement, and an inability to move on. Emotional overinvestment and repetitive public recriminations keep the real story uncertain and open to debate: dead horses.
 
Blum estimated Audi’s NIL at twice the number of your unnamed article.
You questioned the source of my $450K NIL Value for AC? Here you go, it was a SEC Team in a Sports Illustrated article. You can believe what you want, but this is a potential purchaser putting a value on a product they have interest in.


I'm not interested in "bags" and it sounds like that's not the proximate cause of team disintegration anyway - just providing you my source material.