Are we being to harsh

[Statefan10]

And this bunch had a dramatically bad bottom half of the conference. With a normal year in the Big 12, we aren't getting those 5 wins.

It's actually not THAT bad this year for our conference. We're still rated as one of the top conferences in the nation. Here's how the standings / records have differed from last year.
2019-2020
KU - 17-1
BU - 15-3
OU - 9-9
TX - 9-9
TTU - 9-9
WVU - 9-9
OSU - 7-11
TCU - 7-11
ISU - 5-13
KSU - 3-15

2018-2019
TTU - 14-4
KSU - 14-4
KU - 12-6
BU - 10-8
ISU - 9-9
TX - 8-10
TCU - 7-11
OU - 7-11
OSU - 5-13
WVU - 4-14

 

[CYEATHAWK]

It's actually not THAT bad this year for our conference. We're still rated as one of the top conferences in the nation. Here's how the standings / records have differed from last year.
2019-2020
KU - 17-1
BU - 15-3
OU - 9-9
TX - 9-9
TTU - 9-9
WVU - 9-9
OSU - 7-11
TCU - 7-11
ISU - 5-13
KSU - 3-15

2018-2019
TTU - 14-4
KSU - 14-4
KU - 12-6
BU - 10-8
ISU - 9-9
TX - 8-10
TCU - 7-11
OU - 7-11
OSU - 5-13
WVU - 4-14

And we play 4 more games in conference than the 90-91 bunch.

 

[cyups2323]

So, is Prohm going to become the next Nance, Trickey, McDermott or can he turn things around next year and save his ISU reputation?

Having 20 loss seasons puts you in company as a coach you would prefer to stay away from. They are already dangerously close.

I have little confidence they won't make 20 losses.

In my opinion.. next year, and probably steves job depends on him finding a high impact immediately eligible transfer that can have an immediate impact. We have alot of young talent coming in but not enough returning to blend with it. He needs to pull this out of his ass somehow or next year may be his last.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

It's actually not THAT bad this year for our conference. We're still rated as one of the top conferences in the nation. Here's how the standings / records have differed from last year.
2019-2020
KU - 17-1
BU - 15-3
OU - 9-9
TX - 9-9
TTU - 9-9
WVU - 9-9
OSU - 7-11
TCU - 7-11
ISU - 5-13
KSU - 3-15

2018-2019
TTU - 14-4
KSU - 14-4
KU - 12-6
BU - 10-8
ISU - 9-9
TX - 8-10
TCU - 7-11
OU - 7-11
OSU - 5-13
WVU - 4-14

That really does amaze me because this is horrible year for the conference. Even KU is pedestrian at times, though their record doesn't show it.

 

[CycloneErik]

It's actually not THAT bad this year for our conference. We're still rated as one of the top conferences in the nation. Here's how the standings / records have differed from last year.
2019-2020
KU - 17-1
BU - 15-3
OU - 9-9
TX - 9-9
TTU - 9-9
WVU - 9-9
OSU - 7-11
TCU - 7-11
ISU - 5-13
KSU - 3-15

2018-2019
TTU - 14-4
KSU - 14-4
KU - 12-6
BU - 10-8
ISU - 9-9
TX - 8-10
TCU - 7-11
OU - 7-11
OSU - 5-13
WVU - 4-14

Wow, that's awful. Of course the range of records is similar. It's always that way.
You've watched these teams. You should know how abysmal half the conference is this year.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

In my opinion.. next year, and probably steves job depends on him finding a high impact immediately eligible transfer that can have an immediate impact. We have alot of young talent coming in but not enough returning to blend with it. He needs to pull this out of his ass somehow or next year may be his last.

I would think that would be easy with the post players we have to feed down low. A complete SG that can drive and make the deep shots would absolutely blow up on this team IMO.

 

[cyups2323]

Haliburton will surely be gone and im guessing at least 1 more will transfer out. Steve cannot miss on these scholarships.

 

[Macloney]

That really does amaze me because this is horrible year for the conference. Even KU is pedestrian at times, though their record doesn't show it.

You do realize that they are the #1 team in the country, right?

Have you watched them play?

I hate them, but I would bet my house on them walking backwards into the Elite 8.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

You do realize that they are the #1 team in the country, right?

Have you watched them play?

I hate them, but I would bet my house on them walking backwards into the Elite 8.

Not lately I haven't watched them. Earlier in the year I did so you're probably right, but they just don't feel like the Kansas teams of old.

 

[BryceC]

kind reminder that McDermott beat 1 ranked team in 6 years

Greg McDermott: So bad at ISU, his 4 years seemed like 6.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Not lately I haven't watched them. Earlier in the year I did so you're probably right, but they just don't feel like the Kansas teams of old.

I think Kansas is the most legit they've been in years, dating back to Fred's first few years. All this means is they'll probably choke in the 2nd round of the big tourney...not so big without their fans there.