Someone close the blinds. There's no room for sunshine in this place.
Are we being to harsh
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Someone close the blinds. There's no room for sunshine in this place.
Guys were standing around because the ball wasn't moving lol. In the first half we ran very similar offense but were passing the ball all around and were getting wide open looks, while also throwing it down low and going inside out. TCU went on a little run, it happens, but we instantly went away from what was succeeding earlier and started pressing shots, almost all of them coming from Nixon. I can guarantee you Prohm was not happy with most of Nixon's shots. A couple of them were okay selections, but when you're 1-6 and your only make is a banked in 17 footer, you should probably understand it's not your night and not take 4 more attempts. But Prohm's decision was tough in that he wanted Nixon out there because he has shown the ability to be solid at times and has played in a lot of games. It got to the point of no return though, which is when Prohm was forced to play Grill and it ended up working out.
It’s not all sunshine. Surprising next year would be above .500 and on the bubble imo.
That level of moderate success being a positive surprise is likely why many are down on this staff. Does that type of season next year outweigh the bad years?
No, but unless we can buy a “sure bet” coach, let’s see how next year goes. One player this offseason can make next year fall on the right side of the bubble imo. One! Go find him, Steve!
I agree with you, just having some fun with the doom and gloomers that have owned the board for a couple months now.
It’s about feeling good about the program. Right now, there is not really anything to feel good about.
Perhaps, but that can change quickly in CBB imo (agree The loss to FAMU and blowouts are bad, and suggest Prohm can “lose” a team).
I feel good about the composition of next year’s team. It will be better positions 2-5. It will also be more positionless, which is good as Prohm struggles with matchups.
Next year is a new team. We’ll likely have at least one new staff member and will have players not yet known.
If the bolded happens it will create a very interesting situation. Let's say we are around .500 and go to the NIT. Not bad enough to blow the whole thing up, but not necessarily inspiring stuff, especially coming off of a bad year the year prior. That'd be a tough call to make for JP.
Very good point. That’s the worst case scenario in terms of bringing the fanbase together imo. Surprising due to too “harsh” of expectations shouldn’t necessarily save a job.
I think we land a good guard, add a guy like Kennedy as a help to Prohm, and make the tournament.
Next year's roster composition is going to be 10 times better than what we currently have. It might not lead to immediate success but it will be better. Look at the guys who are succeeding at this point of time in the year.. Bolton, Jackson, Grill (to an extent), Solo. Conditt has been in a funk offensively but defensively is still a force. All of those guys will be back with the addition of a top-25 class that is very long and athletic and Johnson who also fits that mold. You add one immediately eligible guy who can make an impact and you have a team that could be tough. And think if that guy is a JUCO.. That means the following year we'll have everyone back as well besides Solo and Lewis.
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It would depend on the context of the season. Were we playing very good and ending up collapsing at the end of the year and end up missing the tournament? Were we struggling right away, strung together some wins late but fell just short at the very end? Both of those scenarios are incredibly different and should be judged differently.
Agreed. And this would be my expectation for Prohm and this team next year. Get to the NCAA tournament or, at worse, be on the bubble. But another 8th place or worse finish won't be acceptable in Year 6.
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Context is everything. Hell even Paul’s last year, if they would have finished with a shutout of Texas, a housing of KState, and a competitive game at Morgantown, along with Lanning showing to be the quarterback for the next two years, and people would have had a completely different feeling about the next season
Context is everything. Hell even Paul’s last year, if they would have finished with a shutout of Texas, a housing of KState, and a competitive game at Morgantown, along with Lanning showing to be the quarterback for the next two years, and people would have had a completely different feeling about the next season
Yeah I'm glad that didn't happen though because I think both the ceiling and floor of Iowa State football is immensely higher with CMC at the realm. And who knows, maybe Prohm ends up leaving one way or another and we find someone better to take his place, but I'll continue to support Prohm as our head coach until that happens and I do think there is a great opportunity in front of Prohm next year to change people's opinions. If he can turn things around next year, I think a lot of people will gain his support.
My agree was with the first part.
but if prohm won 25 games next year, these folks would say he was terrible for not winning 26.
just like Paul taking the Wisconsin job would have been best for him, Steve needs a ripcord closer to his and his wife’s home.
BS. He struggled to figure out his lineup and playing style in Year 2 and Year 4 when we had plenty of talent. It’s lazy if you to forget that.
That’s ridiculous. He should be considering it this year. Another failure next year and it’s a no brainer. Our program is better than peaking out as a 6 seed and missing the tourney the other 3 out of 4 years. We shouldn’t be lowering our standards like this.
And I suppose you were against the firing of Greg McDermott? Or literally any other nice guy who did a bad job while working at ISU? What is more loyal, firing the nice guy who tries hard, or sitting on your hands while we gather 30 pt losses in Hilton? Which one is better for our basketball program and University?
Uhh... not buying the schedule excuse. We played one of the easiest Big 12 schedules in a decade plus. The conference is way down and we are still near the bottom. Now tell me how tough Florida A and M is?
This team is just plain bad. No reason to invent schedule excuses - they don’t stand up.
.... and it would’ve been a massive mistake to keep him. We would’ve never had Matt Campbell.
We are better than that.
