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Looking to get my man cave started. With Black Friday around the corner I figured now would be a good time to get a TV for the basement to get my man cave started.

I’m looking for a 75” TV. My main question right now is, does the refresh rate really matter? The TV will 90% of the time be used for sports. There are 60hz TVs on Best Buy for as low as $350 dollars, but for 120hz the cheapest option is like $900. I’m ok with expending the extra cash if there is a notice difference regarding blur etc.
 
Agclone91 said:
Theoretically, 120hz should be better for sports. I personally can't stand the "soap opera effect" that comes along with it as it looks unnatural.
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Yea, that’s what hat the good old google machine told me. That 120hz is ideal. Just didn’t know if if it is better enough to justify extra cost.
 
The main thing is that all the good panels, and therefore all the good tvs, are just not going to be 60hz at this point. So if you buy a 60hz it's just automatically a worse tv because the good tvs that anyone would recommend are 120hz. Worse processing, worse colors, etc.

If you're mostly watching sports on Youtube tv or cable it's going to be 30 or 60fps anyways and you wouldn't see a real difference, but for movies and definitely for video games you would.

I don't know how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go but check out https://www.rtings.com/ for reviews.
 
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If you want a top tier TV for the man cave, and can spend a little to do it, then look at the OLEDs from LG or Samsung. The LG C services tends to rate out really well for hitting the sweet spot on price and performance. I've had one for years and absolutely love it. I know several other posters have raved about their own C series OLEDs in prior threads.

https://a.co/d/eWRv3uK
 
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3TrueFans said:
The main thing is that all the good panels, and therefore all the good tvs, are just not going to be 60hz at this point. So if you buy a 60hz it's just automatically a worse tv because the good tvs that anyone would recommend are 120hz. Worse processing, worse colors, etc.

If you're mostly watching sports on Youtube tv or cable it's going to be 30 or 60fps anyways and you wouldn't see a real difference, but for movies and definitely for video games you would.

I don't know how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go but check out https://www.rtings.com/ for reviews.
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This may be the key piece then… we use Hulu Live, so if the live content is limited to 60fps then extra hz in the TV will be a waste. Will only see difference when watching movies or gaming, which we don’t do much of.
 
aeroclone said:
If you want a top tier TV for the man cave, and can spend a little to do it, then look at the OLEDs from LG or Samsung. The LG C services tends to rate out really well for hitting the sweet spot on price and performance. I've had one for yea4s and absolutely love it. I know several other posters have raved about their own C series OLEDs in prior threads.

https://a.co/d/eWRv3uK
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Given @3TrueFans feedback on streaming being mostly 60fps… then the right move may be a 60hz TV for one of the models above.
 
3TrueFans said:
The main thing is that all the good panels, and therefore all the good tvs, are just not going to be 60hz at this point. So if you buy a 60hz it's just automatically a worse tv because the good tvs that anyone would recommend are 120hz. Worse processing, worse colors, etc.

If you're mostly watching sports on Youtube tv or cable it's going to be 30 or 60fps anyways and you wouldn't see a real difference, but for movies and definitely for video games you would.

I don't know how deep into the rabbit hole you want to go but check out https://www.rtings.com/ for reviews.
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This is the way. Grab a few model numbers in your price range, pop them into rtings.com. They evaluate on multiple criteria. You can take a SUPER deep dive into their testing, or just make sure you aren't getting one that has an unusually low rating for sports use, or doesn't work well in a bright room.
 
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cyfanbr said:
Given @3TrueFans feedback on streaming being mostly 60fps… then the right move may be a 60hz TV for one of the models above.
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If it were me I hate buying things that are just immediately outdated, I'd get a decent but not exceptionally reviewed 120hz, I think for most people that would be sufficient. Not because you need 120hz, but just because it's going to be a better tv than any 60hz tv.

Honestly though a lot of people won't be able to tell the difference either way, my wife wouldn't care one way or the other. People buy objectively bad tv's from walmart or whatever all the time and are perfectly happy with them.
 
The C series OLED is great. As far as 60hz, yes those are going to be cheap TVs. Hertz and frames per seconds aren't the same thing obviously. You don't need to go beyond 120, but I'd never buy 60hz TV. The issue wouldn't be blur, it would be potentially eye strain from the refresh rate.
 
I'm no expert but I would think for fast-moving things like sports that it does make a difference and I'd imagine the larger the TV the more noticeable the difference would be.
 
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As stated earlier, you’ll struggle to find a 120 Hz signal for sports. By the time it is available, there will be new generations of TVs. Focus on the color quality. In a dark room, getting true blacks from OLED makes a difference. In a bright room, the difference is negligible IMO.

If you end up with a cheaper model, just get yourself a separate streaming box and it’ll be fine. Personally, I don’t like any of the manufacturers menus anyways even if they have the power to not be laggy. I like the Apple TV to make switching between apps smooth to jump between TNF and CFB without closing and opening the apps.
 
cyfanbr said:
Looking to get my man cave started. With Black Friday around the corner I figured now would be a good time to get a TV for the basement to get my man cave started.

I’m looking for a 75” TV. My main question right now is, does the refresh rate really matter? The TV will 90% of the time be used for sports. There are 60hz TVs on Best Buy for as low as $350 dollars, but for 120hz the cheapest option is like $900. I’m ok with expending the extra cash if there is a notice difference regarding blur etc.
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I have a TCL 65" (60hz) that is fine for sports. In my basement I have a 75" TCL (60hz) and it is rough. Football is okay, but basketball I can't handle watching.

You can turn off the motion smoothing to get rid of the soap opera effect as well.

Good thing is now it's basketball season, so buy the tv and return it if you don't like it.
 
The faster the refresh rate the better it will be for sports, so you will want to go with 120 hz, I prefer the OLED from LG, but Samsung and Sony also produce a high quality TV. Look at Costco, they add an extended warranty to most of their sets. Do some research and look around to see which feature you like best and matchup to what you are used too. Nothing like going down to Best Buy after you have a couple of sets in mind and view them in person. Be sure to mention that you want the best price and if they price match.
 
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Clonehomer said:
As stated earlier, you’ll struggle to find a 120 Hz signal for sports. By the time it is available, there will be new generations of TVs. Focus on the color quality. In a dark room, getting true blacks from OLED makes a difference. In a bright room, the difference is negligible IMO.

If you end up with a cheaper model, just get yourself a separate streaming box and it’ll be fine. Personally, I don’t like any of the manufacturers menus anyways even if they have the power to not be laggy. I like the Apple TV to make switching between apps smooth to jump between TNF and CFB without closing and opening the apps.
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Good advice on the separate streaming box. I've worked in the field of setting up entertainment systems, wiring new homes for systems, etc. And it's so annoying when the customer insists on using the built in on the TV for streaming.
 
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