A lot of people have talked about how CA is playing out of position. Does that mean he can't cover a pick and roll, go after a rebound, or consistently take good shots? The things I'm not happy with are the things that have nothing to do with him playing out of position.
Allen vs. Mcgee
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I like McGee. Guy plays with heart and this was not his first good game. Chris Allen has never really sold me, but last night he did save some shot attempts. It's good to have a little competition for the PG spot which is why I think we keep having Allen start, but wouldn't mind a start by McGee against Tech. See what he can do and maybe it will make Allen work a little bit harder.
That was posted earlier. My opinion is Tyrus should be consistently getting more minutes than CA based on production.
We do need Allen to be successful but to say we need him because he has been to two Final Fours is ridiculous. He was not carrying those teams to the final four, he was a role player on all those teams.
I think sometimes the idea of being a "starter" is overrated. McGee is a great 6 man and i like him getting anywhere between 20-30 minutes a game. If the amount of minutes is based off of how the other players are playing then so be it, but I don't think that is entirely it.
Reminds me of Jake Anderson the most. And I think that the reason he's not getting more minutes is that when he's in for Allen, Scotty has to play PG. This wasn't as big of a deal when Bubu was able to play.
Poor shot selection is one thing, what he did in the 2nd half vs KU is another. When you are up double digits on the road at KU, you don't start launching 3's 5 seconds into the shot clock. That needed to be reigned in and wasn't. I know that they all have green lights to shoot, but CA needs to have some sense about the game and situation. Work the ball around. You can always get a guarded 3 late in a possession.
Some one said he plays so hard when he is on the court he gets gassed fast.
I dont understand all the hate for Allen. I give solid mins but does make mistakes when trying to make plays. Every player on this team makes mistakes, problem is Allen has the ball in his hands more. He also is the best option at PG. People loved ripping on Stinson, Taylor and DG also. He isnt playing any worse than DG did his Jr year.
I think Allen does some really good things, the problem is with the way he plays he's going to have some ugly moments mixed in. He's a natural scorer, probably the best one we've got. Sometimes that aggressive scoring mentality backfires, while sometimes he lights it up. My biggest issue with him is he doesn't seem to know when to pull back the reins (the comparisons you made are spot on IMO, those guys had the same issues) although last night he played pretty controlled. It's kind of a catch 22 with Chris, you've got to take the good with the bad. The last 3 o4 minutes of the 1st half at KU was the only time I really got frustrated with him, and that was more about making some lazy passes than being too aggressive with the ball.
The bottom line with Chris is that he's capable of doing things no one else on the team is, like previous posts have said, he's crucial to a tourney run.
Just watched the replay on cyclones.com, Allen was on the floor at the end and was the first one to hug Scotty after the shot.
allen had a very good shot selection last night. actually thought if anythng he didnt shoot enough
How do you figure? Allen's guy got 26 - a career high at KU. Allen's YTD stats look good, but they don't show defensive stats. He scores, but shoots a very modest %. I watched him in the KU game, and he was out of position on his guy a lot. I think McGee deserves more minutes. And starting him might give us that boost so that we may get off to an early lead, and maybe Allen would then come off the bench a little more inspired. I think it's an interesting idea. Sends a good message to the team, and gives us a high energy start and could provide some competitive motivation to step up Allen's game. I think I like it.
They are both good players. We go 8-5 down the stretch. Win a conference tourney game or 2 or 3. Make the NCAA's as a 12 seed. We beat a 5 seed. Make the sweet 16. Allen comes up big in a game against a highly ranked opponent and we make the Great 8. That's all my crystal ball has given me so far. Oh, White stays (as he should) and it's even better next year. By the way, if everyone looked like McGee on the floor at the same time it would look like a pack of water bugs you're throwing rocks at from the dock. Allen doesn't play that way. McGee does. It's all good. Chris Allen is a very talented player. I think people in general don't realize how talented this group of kids Fred has is. So, if one guy is down it appears as though he sucks to some people. I guarantee that this will shake out to everyone's enjoyment. Or I don't.
He's now been to more Final Fours than any other Cyclone that didn't buy a ticket. We need him. He's a player okay. I could argue Royce White's free throws and lack of finishing around the basket have cost us more games than anything Allen has done. I could make an argument against any player on the team. But what is the point?? Sorry. I know you aren't arguing against him.
