It depends. Do we look like we belong in the Big 12 or are we just beating the worst teams on the schedule and sneaking into bowl games? If we look competitive in losing then 30-30 is fine by me.
I hate using Iowa as a measuring stick, but that's basically where they've been under Kirk - unlike their fans I'd be perfectly happy with those results
There's no reason ISU cant be consistently around .500, and then occasionally have a 'special' year where we get up to 8 or 9 wins. Not expecting championships, but even most mediocre teams have had seasons like this.
How many times has ISU won 8+ games in a season? What's your definition of "occasionally"?
This is exactly why CPR is still here. Because a majority of fans are ok with mediocrity. Which is not ok
Being satisfied with 6-6 is exactly what got us stuck with what's his face for 7 years.
No, not really.
JP thought he had a coach that added value- took a 2-10 team to .500 ball- with the thought once he builds the base to 6-6, you will get an occasional 8 or 9 win team.
No, it is a really nice way to say you are not bright.That's a really nice way of saying we are satisfied with 6-6.
No, it is a really nice way to say you are not bright.
JP thought he was buying low, turns out he overpaid for a lemon.
I just want to win more than 2 bigxii games a year. (hell at this point one starting to sound good)
Being satisfied with 6-6 is exactly what got us stuck with what's his face for 7 years.
If Rhoads had gone 7-6 in 2013 and 5-7 last year (or thereabouts), there wouldn't really be a question about him being the coach in 2016. Your post doesn't make much sense.
To have a 5 year win total far exceeding any years national champion win total
My expectation is to be Kansas State 2.0. There is no reason if Snyder could turn a turd in Manhattan into a decently successful program that the same can't be done in Ames. No reason whatsoever. Will it be easy? No.