***2026 Minnesota Vikings***
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That would be a massive get. JJ and Addison on the outside, Jennings would feast on the interior routes.
Do we really need another somewhat expensive WR? I guess if he comes dirt cheap, that's one thing.
Agreed. He was a 3rd down machine for the 49ers. And he's a beast in the running game. Love this for the Vikings.
I doubt it will be a long term deal. 2 or 3 years guaranteed I bet. With the Greenard trade they have cap space and they still have other ways to get more space if they need it (like a Brian O'Neill extension).
When KOC runs 3 WR sets 65% of the time and your 3rd WR is Tai Felton. Yes we do need another expensive WR.
I think that's the only way they sign him, is if it's a team friendly contract...and on maybe a 1 year deal. Although it really depends on their plans for Addison. They picked up his 5th year option but what does that mean? If they sign Jennings to a multi-year deal I wonder if that means they trade Addison and they picked up his option to make that easier.
I have a hard time believing Jennings will sign for cheap considering he wanted $22+ million/year back in March. But maybe he and his agent have realized his market has dropped significantly given the fact that no team has signed him yet.
The Vikes also need to bring in a vet edge player now that they've traded Greenard. Although I think the pickings are slim so they probably won't need too much money for that.
The Vikings have a lot of holes to fill. It's gonna take a couple of years to recover from Kwesi.
I wouldn't call it that. They've done extremely well with free agent signings the last few years. Last year, the biggest hole was at QB and it lost many games. Now they're having Murray try to solve that with largely the same offense behind it.
Defense will step back some I imagine, but probably not a lot with Flores' track record. Defense wasn't the reason they lost games last year, so any practically elevation provided by Murray will turn the team into a playoff candidate.
Been awhile since I checked his metrics, but I recall Murray being a deep ball specialist with just enough feet to extend plays, but his issues are when he gets off schedule. KOC passing scheme really likes to be scheduled at not freestyled, so there's a bit of a discrepancy there to work through.
The reason why the Vikings have had to rely on FA signings is because Kwesi was terrible at the draft. I'm hoping we can turn that around and not have to keep taking chances on FA's.
Valid. We did very well on cap money and very well on FAs, but poorly on drafts. This draft post-Kwesi isn't exactly exciting either, seeing how we spent a first on a guy who basically didn't play last season due to injury.
MIN is in an annoying spot. Realistically, they should be full speed tanking right now, but since this org just never does that, we are instead trying to restock the cupboard while never having a mass of picks and always picking late in rounds while doing it.
This. The Wilf's would rather win 9-11 games every season and complete for the playoffs, but likely not get a championship than totally bottom out for a few years with the hope that they can truly compete for a championship when they come out of it.
And I think the Wilf's are really good owners. But that is their philosophy.
It may not have been exciting but at least it made sense. They used the first 3 picks to improve the front 7 of the defense which is crucial in Flores system. Then they got a backup swing tackle who may be able to take over for O’Neil as his contract is about to expire. Then they got 2 highly athletic project DBs for Flores to mold and a starting caliber fullback/hback with Ham retiring. They might not be elite this year but these are the kinds of drafts they need.
The Wilfs like to win, almost to a fault. They choose not to lose when it would be beneficial to do so. They do win a lot and give the city something to support, but they never win the big ones as a result.
There is no guarantee that bottoming out will bring a championship either. Browns have been bottoming out forever. Raiders have been bottoming out forever. Lions bottomed out for a long time and might be digging out.
Lets look at the teams that have had major success. Have any of them had multi year rebuilds?
Have the Patriots ever bottomed out to be champs?
Have the Steelers ever bottomed out to be champs?
Have the Chiefs ever bottomed out to be champs?
Have the Eagles ever bottomed out to be champs?
Have the 49ers ever bottomed out to be nearly champs?
Have the Seahawks had to bottomed out to be champs?
Did the Rams ever bottom out?
Tampa won because they got Brady/Gronk, not because of 10 years of losing records to rebuild
Is there really an example of a multi-year rebuild that lead to a super bowl win? Not really that I can think of in the last 15-20 years.
They had holes to fill and filled them, I got the idea. It was just largely done in unorthodox way/against expected outcome. We just canned away Kwesi for doing a bunch of unorthodox stuff instead of going with the consensus ideas. Maybe these times it'll work out.
Like my previous post, can you name a team in the last 20 years that had a multi year rebuild of high draft picks lead to a super bowl appearance or win?
Most of the teams you named had one of two things: A few seasons of .500 or worse records to build up a little with before reaching dominant state, OR They already had a HOF or near-HOF QB and additional skill position talent, almost all of which was also drafted.
The Steelers are a great comp to Minnesota, actually, save for one recent-ish SB from a HOF QB. Steelers are consistently good, win the division here and there, win a playoff game on occasion, but aren't a serious SB contender and don't go the distance. They don't have any downers really, but also no upper seasons in a long time. Constant state of slightly above average, with the ceiling being there too.
The Chiefs were pretty forgettable pre-Mahomes. Patriots have been very bad between Brady and last year. Seahawks have completely retooled roster and coaching staff and reached a SB that nobody predicted, they had some downers before. SF has made many big roster moves to gain team capital in the long run over time. Denver has blown up and rebuilt a few times.
These are the areas MIN hasn't done well -- blockbuster trades for capital or losing enough for high draft picks. We didn't have a top-5 pick to spend on a Drake Maye. Don't sell the stars occasionally to gain capital or move up drafts.
This kind of highlights the main issue with being a sports team owner: what is your goal? Is it to win trophies, or just to consistently win? Different rosters and approaches achieve those different ends. For the Vikings right now, the main change agent is Murray. Do we believe he can win a SB? If the answer is No, then...what are you doing with him and spending money and time on the rest of the roster for?
