***2025 Tennis Thread***

I think a lot of it comes down to whose body holds up better over time.
Huge part of it you're correct. Also I think advantage to Sinner with 2 of 4 slams being hardcourts. They both can win anywhere though
 
I said it here when sinner was in control of French open then Alcaraz came back but it wouldn't suprise me at all and I almost expect Sinner to wind up with more Slams. I'm like 51/49 though, it'll be a great rivalry and interesting aspect to follow later in careers.
My only thing with Sinner is I don't see his body holding up as long. There is some history of shorter guys up to about 6'2" playing well into their mid 30's with little to no drop off. The likelihood of a 6'-4" guy doing it is a lot less, especially with Sinner's build.

Even back in the day, a guy like Agassi lasted a lot longer than taller, lankier players.

I look at long lanky guys like Medvedev and Zverev. They're slowing down in their upper 20's already. Granted, Sinner is way ahead of them, but I think his movement will slow down at an earlier age than Alcaraz'. Even then he's still got probably 6-7 peak years left though.
 
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Huge part of it you're correct. Also I think advantage to Sinner with 2 of 4 slams being hardcourts. They both can win anywhere though
Yeah, Alcaraz has to perform better at the U.S and Australia going forward. He clearly has the ability to win those, just hadn't been that good at either major for some reason the last couple years.

I will say, going into last year's U.S. Open, I think Alcaraz was just 100% burned out. Won Roland Garros, then Wimbledon, then played both doubles and singles in the Olympics, losing in the Gold Medal match. Then had a week turn around to play in Cincinnati followed immediately by the U.S. Open. I think it was too much for him. I'll be curious if he skips one of the North American hard court events to give himself some rest this year.
 
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My only thing with Sinner is I don't see his body holding up as long. There is some history of shorter guys up to about 6'2" playing well into their mid 30's with little to no drop off. The likelihood of a 6'-4" guy doing it is a lot less, especially with Sinner's build.

Even back in the day, a guy like Agassi lasted a lot longer than taller, lankier players.

I look at long lanky guys like Medvedev and Zverev. They're slowing down in their upper 20's already. Granted, Sinner is way ahead of them, but I think his movement will slow down at an earlier age than Alcaraz'. Even then he's still got probably 6-7 peak years left though.
Very good point especially when we're forecasting years and years down line. I do wonder how much of those 2 decline is due to a lot of brutal losses and not climbing the moutain. Medvedev does have a slam but he's finished 2nd numerous times. Both guys give me mentally exhausted feeling right now more so then a physical decline. Still Sinner's probably going to be more injured if I had to bet just given his build as you mentioned.
 
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Sinner vs Alcaraz in masters final at 2 on a Monday should cause someone to go to jail
 
this is the dumbest thing in all of professional sports.

in tennis, if your ball touches the net and still goes over, you are required (by rule?) to apologize to your opponent. WTF. this is the second time this year this has been an issue in a match.

 
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this is the dumbest thing in all of professional sports.

in tennis, if your ball touches the net and still goes over, you are required (by rule?) to apologize to your opponent. WTF. this is the second time this year this has been an issue in a match.


Ostapenko can retire...don't enjoy watching her play...her antics are beyond annoying!
 
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this is the dumbest thing in all of professional sports.

in tennis, if your ball touches the net and still goes over, you are required (by rule?) to apologize to your opponent. WTF. this is the second time this year this has been an issue in a match.

It’s not a rule that you have to apologize. It’s just considered a good sportsmanship, and players always do it.

Personally I think it’s dumb and don’t care at all if someone apologizes to me if that happens during the match. It actually annoys me when people apologize. It’s not like you are cheating, or doing something wrong… it’s just part of the game.

Kind of like if you bank a shot in basketball when you didn’t mean to.
 
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It’s not a rule that you have to apologize. It’s just considered a good sportsmanship, and players always do it.

Personally I think it’s dumb and don’t care at all if someone apologizes to me if that happens during the match. It actually annoys me when people apologize. It’s not like you are cheating, or doing something wrong… it’s just part of the game.

Kind of like if you bank a shot in basketball when you didn’t mean to.
more of an unwritten rule then.

what i was calling dumb was the outrage from the other player.
 
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this is the dumbest thing in all of professional sports.

in tennis, if your ball touches the net and still goes over, you are required (by rule?) to apologize to your opponent. WTF. this is the second time this year this has been an issue in a match.

I play a lot of tennis and refuse to apologize for winning a point in that fashion, it's part of the game. Should golfers apologize for getting a lucky bounce off a tree? Should basketball players apologize for banking in a 3? That's how dumb that is.
 
I play a lot of tennis and refuse to apologize for winning a point in that fashion, it's part of the game. Should golfers apologize for getting a lucky bounce off a tree? Should basketball players apologize for banking in a 3? That's how dumb that is.
Etiquette in one sport doesn't necessarily need to translate to other sports. Should golfers stop policing themselves and try to skirt the rules whenever they can get away with it since other sports don't?
 
Etiquette in one sport doesn't necessarily need to translate to other sports. Should golfers stop policing themselves and try to skirt the rules whenever they can get away with it since other sports don't?
I think golf is the outlier in that there isn't necessarily an official watching every player at every second of the game. Assuming there is no negative intent a professional tennis player shouldn't feel obligated to apologize for anything outside of accidentally hitting an opponent, they are there to earn a living.
 
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I think golf is the outlier in that there isn't necessarily an official watching every player at every second of the game. Assuming there is no negative intent a professional tennis player shouldn't feel obligated to apologize for anything outside of accidentally hitting an opponent, they are there to earn a living.
I agree they shouldn't be obligated to apologize. I appreciate when players do though.

I actually don't like apologizing as much for hitting someone. Winning a point on a net ball is really lucky, so I like the apology. If you get hit by a ball, it's usually because you or your doubles partner screwed up and fed up a meatball. The opponent shouldn't be obligated to both make their next shot and try to avoid hitting you (a moving target that's trying to chase down the ball).
 
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