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My opinion on this is if you can monetize yourself fine, but yeah on a money losing program don't be expecting to get paid. I know Audi has done some stuff with Kemna and a local bank up in Algona and that's great more power to her but most the players in the smaller sports WBB on down ought to be picking their school on their degree and not what they hope to get in NIL funds because not enough people care about their sport to make it break even. No reason to throw money at them now. Most these sports should have been grateful for what they had.

The AD is already increasing WBB season ticket prices starting next season due to demand and revenue sharing with the players per the AD's communication. I assume the money from this increase will be specifically earmarked for WBB which should free up funds for MBB and FB.
 

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Not exactly sure.
The truth is with modern TV's you can see more watching it at home than you can in person. You do miss the atmosphere of the crowd, outside of that, being at home is a much better viewing environment. How many times have you gone to a game and then gone home to watch the replace to see critical plays over again? You cannot beat being at the game, but most of the time, you cannot see crap of what is happening during the game.
I like to see the line up and shifting of both sides, that tells me where I’m focusing my attention. With the TV they show the QB taking the snap mostly. They will show a replay on the jumbo of each play. I can see the ball activity if I missed it then. If I focus on the safeties, I would never get that on TV.
 

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Not exactly sure.
The AD is already increasing WBB season ticket prices starting next season due to demand and revenue sharing with the players per the AD's communication. I assume the money from this increase will be specifically earmarked for WBB which should free up funds for MBB and FB.
When it’s already losing a big chunk, this increase won’t cover it. FB and MBB will still heavily subsidize it. If we focus on those two sports, they will generate way more than anything WBB does. We need the NIL funds pushing to FB first then MBB and leave a few scraps for the rest to appease them a smidge.
 
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I like to see the line up and shifting of both sides, that tells me where I’m focusing my attention. With the TV they show the QB taking the snap mostly. They will show a replay on the jumbo of each play. I can see the ball activity if I missed it then. If I focus on the safeties, I would never get that on TV.
I agree you cannot see the entire field, but you can see the action much better on TV than being at the game. Replays in JTS are hit or miss, and they do not show as many as they do on TV. We have reached a point were they are showing almost every play again on TV.
TV will give you everything and more except the all 22 view, if that is what you want, then being at the game is better, but for many fans, they could care less about that angle. I like the all 22 view myself, but many don't.
 
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This is the huge point that's not getting enough attention.

We had season tickets in 2021 but dropped them for the next season after realizing it was far more economical to pick and choose the games we wanted to attend via the secondary market, especially since that saved us costly/time consuming trips to Ames for games we didn't care that much about attending.

The more expensive it is to buy season tickets (and be Cyclone Club members) the more people will do this, and tickets weren't exactly insabely in demand this year when we won 10 games.

Raising costs at all, regardless of how ours compare to other Big XII schools, is risky business.
Agree.

I dropped my lower end CC membership, bball and fb season tix 2 years ago after 12 years. (btw you are all welcome, because I knew they'd win freaking everything once I was out).

Mostly I dropped because I wasn't making all the games from CR, and not tailgating at all anymore (kids busy, gf hates cold and sports, etc). Just more work that it was worth. It wasn't cost, I certainly have the disposable income.

But whenever I tried to sell tickets... lol. Gave away more than I ever sold. Maybe get $20 for a pair of bball tickets, but more often than not they went unused. Football? LOFL. Never able to sell any, ever, in 12 years. They just went unused. Think I missed 3 games entirely in 2022, and one game I went by myself (4 seats to myself).

For me, picking up a couple good seats for a game or two saves money, sure. What it really saves me is the hassle of trying to get rid of tickets or feeling like I'm pissing money away not using them.
 

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If you take that approach then you will not have a competitive team. You need to be playing by the same rules as the teams you are competing against and unless everyone takes that approach you will not be able to recruit the Addy / Audi / Emily type player and become irrelevant.

Such is life. we really havent been relevant in WBB for a while, slide into the tourney and lose in the 1st round. Early 2000s was our last elite wasnt it? More power to everyone that wants to play this silly NIL game but I'll buy my season tickets and pizza and beer, but nothing past that from me and by doing those 3 things I'm already doing more than 99% of the fan base.
 

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When it’s already losing a big chunk, this increase won’t cover it. FB and MBB will still heavily subsidize it. If we focus on those two sports, they will generate way more than anything WBB does. We need the NIL funds pushing to FB first then MBB and leave a few scraps for the rest to appease them a smidge.

I think they sell somewhere between 7-9000 season WBB tkts, so at the $50 increase it is somewhere between 350-450,000 revenue bump whether this is applied to NIL or WBB budget it is still a pretty good boost. It'll be interesting to see what the AD does with the FB and MBB pricing . I'm guessing they bump them up the same %.
 

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Agree.

I dropped my lower end CC membership, bball and fb season tix 2 years ago after 12 years. (btw you are all welcome, because I knew they'd win freaking everything once I was out).

Mostly I dropped because I wasn't making all the games from CR, and not tailgating at all anymore (kids busy, gf hates cold and sports, etc). Just more work that it was worth. It wasn't cost, I certainly have the disposable income.

But whenever I tried to sell tickets... lol. Gave away more than I ever sold. Maybe get $20 for a pair of bball tickets, but more often than not they went unused. Football? LOFL. Never able to sell any, ever, in 12 years. They just went unused. Think I missed 3 games entirely in 2022, and one game I went by myself (4 seats to myself).

For me, picking up a couple good seats for a game or two saves money, sure. What it really saves me is the hassle of trying to get rid of tickets or feeling like I'm pissing money away not using them.

Nice job of sliding the humble brag in.;):D
 

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Not exactly sure.
I think they sell somewhere between 7-9000 season WBB tkts, so at the $50 increase it is somewhere between 350-450,000 revenue bump whether this is applied to NIL or WBB budget it is still a pretty good boost. It'll be interesting to see what the AD does with the FB and MBB pricing . I'm guessing they bump them up the same %.
FB is getting sales tax charged so almost 50 there and donation levels bump 20%.
 

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FB is getting sales tax charged so almost 50 there and donation levels bump 20%.
But all sports are going to be getting charged sales tax aren't they? I really don't know that answer I just assumed they were applying it to all tickets sold in all sports .
 

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basically what I am learning from all this is Football and mens Basketball needs the majority of funding and NIL to pay players so that we can be good at those two sports to bring in more funding to pay for the rest of the sports losing money.

I wish more people understood that athletic department is using the majority of the two sports profits so that every other sport can exist.

I still think pay disparity will become an issue at some point. kind of like the WNBA and NBA has going on.
 
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This is going to be the market correcting itself. I have thought players should have some sort of compensation to allow them to make close to their counterparts attending University (50-60k would be well more than that of a typical student). They shouldn't, not be able to take out their GF/BF to dinner, movie, make a car payment, etc. But it has gotten out of conrol, an additional $20M to pay players to play is craziness. As a 10-year donor; we'll probably be giving them up this next year to all sports. Over the last 10 years, donating & tickets cost around 6k/year for me. That's a pretty sizable investment into my kids future going forward, not to mention the amount of time i'll have back.
 

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Agree.

I dropped my lower end CC membership, bball and fb season tix 2 years ago after 12 years. (btw you are all welcome, because I knew they'd win freaking everything once I was out).

Mostly I dropped because I wasn't making all the games from CR, and not tailgating at all anymore (kids busy, gf hates cold and sports, etc). Just more work that it was worth. It wasn't cost, I certainly have the disposable income.

But whenever I tried to sell tickets... lol. Gave away more than I ever sold. Maybe get $20 for a pair of bball tickets, but more often than not they went unused. Football? LOFL. Never able to sell any, ever, in 12 years. They just went unused. Think I missed 3 games entirely in 2022, and one game I went by myself (4 seats to myself).

For me, picking up a couple good seats for a game or two saves money, sure. What it really saves me is the hassle of trying to get rid of tickets or feeling like I'm pissing money away not using them.
This was a big factor in us giving up our tickets. Was near impossible to get anything for our unused tickets if we could even find anyone to take them for free.

Meanwhile I hear of these bigger donors that basically bankroll all of their cost by buying a bunch of tickets and parking passes and selling them. Was told of one guy that supposedly makes $10k/year doing it.
 

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This was a big factor in us giving up our tickets. Was near impossible to get anything for our unused tickets if we could even find anyone to take them for free.

Meanwhile I hear of these bigger donors that basically bankroll all of their cost by buying a bunch of tickets and parking passes and selling them. Was told of one guy that supposedly makes $10k/year doing it.
... expense their tickets as a business expense so they don't really care.
 

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This is going to be the market correcting itself. I have thought players should have some sort of compensation to allow them to make close to their counterparts attending University (50-60k would be well more than that of a typical student). They shouldn't, not be able to take out their GF/BF to dinner, movie, make a car payment, etc. But it has gotten out of conrol, an additional $20M to pay players to play is craziness. As a 10-year donor; we'll probably be giving them up this next year to all sports. Over the last 10 years, donating & tickets cost around 6k/year for me. That's a pretty sizable investment into my kids future going forward, not to mention the amount of time i'll have back.

I want to address the bold because I've seen this thrown around A LOT throughout the years.

Scholarship athletes have tuition, room (paid out at the dorm rate), meals and books paid for. Plus most are getting Pell Grant money and have access to the NCAA clothing fund to buy clothes. If they aren't able to go out for a meal on their excess scholarship or Pell grant money that's their issue.

Now I know there are some extenuating situations.

I bought my first racecar with my excess scholarship money.
 
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Scholarship athletes have tuition, room (paid out at the dorm rate), meals and books paid for. Plus most are getting Pell Grant money and have access to the NCAA clothing fund to but clothes.

Plus the "cost of attendance" stipend.
 
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The NLI was intended for schools fund their own NLI from their revenue and TV contracts - not ask donors for more money. Jamie has finessed the system and instead of using money that we have - let's ask fans to pay more and let's take away experiences from our other programs by reducing their budgets. - dumb!
 

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For all those saying they will donate less or go to less games, just want to say I don't blame you

College sports can be fun entertainment, and I enjoy cheering on ISU, but I would never donate $s to NIL. Even if college sports stopped tomorrow, investing in your own future or donating to charities is better use of $s
 

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Serious question here - What the **** more do you need?

I go to bb and fb games to watch bb and fb.

I guess I don't understand all these people who need more than that. I hear "we need to enhance the experience", the experience is watching and cheering on your favorite to a win.

The only experience I think absolutely needs to be enhanced at JTS is to be able to take a piss and get something at a concession stand without feeling like I've been at the DMV and missed 5 minutes of gametime.