2025-2026 MBB computer projections thread

More thoughts on the matchup after watching some Tenn games:

Tennessee almost always plays 2 bigs (Estrella, Okpara, Carey) + Ament. They like to run high/low sets with the bigs to free up entry passes and it will be interesting to see how we defend that, especially with Jefferson out of the game. I'd guess we trap the big at the FT line hard from one of the wings, or rotate from the wings under the hoop to help on the big.

Tenn is a lot like Arizona in their offensive set. Gillispe isn't Jaden Bradley, he's more like Burries, actually, but for this comparison, he really plays both roles. Arizona doesn't really have an Ament-type player, but they do play the two bigs a lot (Kriivas, Peat, Awaka) and they crash the boards hard. But they don't have anyone on the bench who has made more that 15 threes on the year (Dell'Orso has made 46 this year and has 184 in his career). I expect that we'll play the same way we did against Arizona, really collapse everyone to the paint when the bigs get the ball and make them make the right pass and find the open shooter - and then make mediocre shooters (all except Gillispe) make the shot.

And they'll need two of their role/bench players to go off like Arizona did in order to beat us.

Want a gross stat? Dell'Orso went 8-14 from 3 against us in 2 games. That's almost 1/5th of the 3s he made all year. And it's 57% - he shot 29% in all other games combined.

A couple other things - Gillispe shoot's a LOT of threes and most of them are 3-4 feet behind the line. We can probably live with 3 or 4 of those, but need to make sure he doesn't pull a Milan.

Ament plays a bit like Dybantsa, but with nowhere near the physical strength and tools. But he likes the mid-range jumper than he can get over anyone (but doesn't make a high percentage) and he gets a "Dybantsa-like" whistle at times (8 FTs per game)

I like the way we match up. The teams that have traditionally given Otz teams the most trouble are teams that play small (4 guards) with two elite ball handlers and shooters all over the court. I think we can create turnovers and get out and run.
 
I like the way we match up. The teams that have traditionally given Otz teams the most trouble are teams that play small (4 guards) with two elite ball handlers and shooters all over the court. I think we can create turnovers and get out and run.
Illinois seems like the style of team we struggle with. Not that they are unbeatable but just seems like a tough matchup.
 
I like the way we match up. The teams that have traditionally given Otz teams the most trouble are teams that play small (4 guards) with two elite ball handlers and shooters all over the court. I think we can create turnovers and get out and run.
I do too - watching Illinois whip the ball around and cause Houston all kinds of problems yesterday I was VERY glad we weren't the 2 in their region! I feel like they would have done the same to us.
 
Or Alabama. Fast, long and aggressive.

Agreed. I'll be rooting for Bama to knock off Michigan. In terms of style of play though, I think we match up better against Michigan than Bama.

We'b probably be 3-4 point favorites over Bama. 3-4 point dogs against Michigan.
 
I would have agreed with you yesterday, but after last night... eeessh. 41 points with under 4 to play against the Illini defense is ROUGH

FYI - That game got Illinois up to #21 in Kpom defensive rating

I know IL played some good defense, but it was Houston having an off night shooting the ball too. Just a caustic combo. I also have a feeling Houston was feeling the pressure playing in Houston under the brightest of lights. It just wasn't their night, but they're still an awesome team.
 
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I know IL played some good defense, but it was Houston having an off night shooting the ball too. Just a caustic combo. I also have a feeling Houston was feeling the pressure playing in Houston under the brightest of lights. It just wasn't their night, but they're still an awesome team.
They just never quite blended 100% all year.

I think they missed having a big that could post up, and Uzan/Sharp/Flemings never quite figured out how to be better as a whole instead of sum of parts. Almost like Sharp and Uzan couldn't quite figure out their role with Fleming being so ball dominant.

And Cenac has amazing potential, but he was pretty intermittent. Reminds me of THT for us.
 
They just never quite blended 100% all year.

I think they missed having a big that could post up, and Uzan/Sharp/Flemings never quite figured out how to be better as a whole instead of sum of parts. Almost like Sharp and Uzan couldn't quite figure out their role with Fleming being so ball dominant.

And Cenac has amazing potential, but he was pretty intermittent. Reminds me of THT for us.
It's also crazy that Houston only shot 2 FTs the whole game.

In the games I watched yesterday, the refs really let them play. Hopefully that holds for the games today as well.

Cenac and Uzan combined to go 5-23 for 12 total points yesterday. Like most teams, if one main cog is off, it can be handled, but if two are, it's really tough.
 
Really good

Really good analysis, appreciate it. Some thoughts that have been lingering for me after going deep into Tennessee’s analytics and watching them some.

I wonder if one thing that causes their super high OR% is that they aren’t efficient at converting them which gives a better than average chance at another offensive rebound (ie they have a lot of those trips down the court where they get 2 or 3 offensive rebounds in close succession). A basket is a basket but if it takes you three offensive rebounds to get it vs just one that makes your OR% look a lot better.

I can’t figure out how their 3pt% defense is so good. They’ve got a roster full of big guys that aren’t super quick rangy guys and don’t put an abnormal amount of perimeter ball pressure with their guards. Feels like it should be really hard to find space inside against them so the 2pt% makes sense, but with good ball movement you should be able to find clean looks for good outside shooters. Maybe it’s just that they do a good job getting teams deep into the shot clock and they end up forcing contested 3s.

My gut says it’s going to come down to 3 point shooting. If we have a good game where 2 to 3 guys are shooting well from deep that is going to make playing against their defense in the half court so much more manageable. Then for them Gillespie and to a lesser extent Ament can put up a ton of 3s. If either or both shoot well from 3 that is when Tennessee is really hard to beat. Conversely either of them can borderline shoot their team out of the game some nights, both from 3 and tough 2s.
Preventing penetration and inside-out rhythm threes would be my guess as to how they guard the 3 point line effectively
 
It's also crazy that Houston only shot 2 FTs the whole game.

In the games I watched yesterday, the refs really let them play. Hopefully that holds for the games today as well.

Cenac and Uzan combined to go 5-23 for 12 total points yesterday. Like most teams, if one main cog is off, it can be handled, but if two are, it's really tough.

Unless it's Padilla I don't think much body bumping is going to be called on the way to the hoop. That benefitted Iowa State against Kentucky to some degree, Oweh kept flailing to try to sell fouls and few were called. It could make things even tougher on Iowa State down low since Tennessee already has an advantage, but rebounds seem to be the "holding" of basketball, there are fouls somewhere on most rebounds, but if you're not hooking and don't take out somebody's legs you probably won't get called. And Iowa State—specifically Toure and Pleta—is pretty good at walking that line
 
Hope the ankle allows J-Jeff to play, but I don’t see that happening. Hope I’m wrong.

As for tonight, I think it’s going to be a low scoring rock fight. Limit the put backs (without Jefferson, easier said than done) and turn them over + score in transition and we’ll be sitting pretty, bring on big blue.
 
Tennessee has moved ahead
I do too - watching Illinois whip the ball around and cause Houston all kinds of problems yesterday I was VERY glad we weren't the 2 in their region! I feel like they would have done the same to us.
They've skyrocketed up to #4 in Kenpom. Super dangerous team right now.
 
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They've skyrocketed up to #4 in Kenpom. Super dangerous team right now.
Things I had completely missed about Illinois:

- they are a slow paced team. Not as slow as Iowa or Houston (that game last night had 58 possessions), but they are ~270 in pace
- they are #1 in opponent FTR, by a mile. Duke is #2 in opponent FTR, with opponents shooting FTs on 23% of possessions. Illinois is #1 at 19.2%, which is a bonkers number.
- They are #8 is fewest turnovers offensively, turning the ball over on 13.1% of their possessions - but they are dead last in forcing turnovers (11.6%)

Just a statistically fascinating team - they are either really good or really bad in almost every category.
 
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Things I had completely missed about Illinois:

- they are a slow paced team. Not as slow as Iowa or Houston (that game last night had 58 possessions), but they are ~270 in pace
- they are #1 in opponent FTR, by a mile. Duke is #2 in opponent FTR, with opponents shooting FTs on 23% of possessions. Illinois is #1 at 19.2%, which is a bonkers number.
- They are #8 is fewest turnovers offensively, turning the ball over on 13.1% of their possessions - but they are dead last in forcing turnovers (11.6%)

Just a statistically fascinating team - they are either really good or really bad in almost every category.
I had no idea they played at that slow a pace. That, and not putting teams on the free throw line makes them a terrible matchup for Iowa. I went back and looked at their matchup from earlier this year, which was @ Iowa. Illinois was up 11 at halftime, led by double digits the entire 2nd half include a 17pt lead at one point, then Iowa went on a run to make it somewhat close in the last couple minutes. Illinois is a lot better right now too.
 
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Might be my last post in this thread for this past season.

This thread always peters out come tournament time -- no more projections and just games.

Anyways. It was a "good" year. It was borderline a "great" year. I'll always wonder "what if" regarding the Jefferson injury, though I'm not sure the Cyclones are beating Michigan even with him.

The good news is TJ reloads and takes another shot. One of these years we're going to have a good team with a favorable draw in terms of matchups, locations, and injuries. One of these years.

:)

#7 in the final Torvik rankings isn't too bad now is it?

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Been a great five seasons. Here's to many more!

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Might be my last post in this thread for this past season.

This thread always peters out come tournament time -- no more projections and just games.

Anyways. It was a "good" year. It was borderline a "great" year. I'll always wonder "what if" regarding the Jefferson injury, though I'm not sure the Cyclones are beating Michigan even with him.

The good news is TJ reloads and takes another shot. One of these years we're going to have a good team with a favorable draw in terms of matchups, locations, and injuries. One of these years.

:)

#7 in the final Torvik rankings isn't too bad now is it?

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Been a great five seasons. Here's to many more!

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Notable that our offense has steadily improved every season.
 
@Letterkenny, in terms of efficiency yes, but college basketball doesn't have the same average offensive and defensive ratings per 100 season-to-season. The team went from 119.3 per 100 to 123.7 per 100 but dropped in the rankings from #21 to #23, so college basketball just had more scoring last year. This evolution does not surprise me. NIL means more skilled guys and good shooters are staying in college longer rather than heading to the NBA. For example, Milan might have been gone to the NBA after his freshman year in the olden days, but now there's a real possibility he'll play all four years because the "consolation" in college is lucrative.

But yes, the general trend is still there going from "root canal" to "pretty good but not elite." TJ has never had a team outside the top ten in defense, too, so hopefully you can keep the offense in the top 25 and the defense in the top ten in perpetuity -- that kind of program competes for Final Fours every year.
 
Might be my last post in this thread for this past season.

This thread always peters out come tournament time -- no more projections and just games.

Anyways. It was a "good" year. It was borderline a "great" year. I'll always wonder "what if" regarding the Jefferson injury, though I'm not sure the Cyclones are beating Michigan even with him.

The good news is TJ reloads and takes another shot. One of these years we're going to have a good team with a favorable draw in terms of matchups, locations, and injuries. One of these years.

:)

#7 in the final Torvik rankings isn't too bad now is it?

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Been a great five seasons. Here's to many more!

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Thanks for doing this throughout the season @Sigmapolis (plus occasional updates contributed by others, I don't want to omit anyone, so won't attempt to do an "@")
 
Thanks for doing this throughout the season @Sigmapolis (plus occasional updates contributed by others, I don't want to omit anyone, so won't attempt to do an "@")
I couldn't agree more! I look forward to the @Sigmapolis updates after every game, even the poor performances, and I've learned a lot about the analytical perspective of basketball! Thanks to Sig and all who contributed!
 
Might be my last post in this thread for this past season.

This thread always peters out come tournament time -- no more projections and just games.

Anyways. It was a "good" year. It was borderline a "great" year. I'll always wonder "what if" regarding the Jefferson injury, though I'm not sure the Cyclones are beating Michigan even with him.

The good news is TJ reloads and takes another shot. One of these years we're going to have a good team with a favorable draw in terms of matchups, locations, and injuries. One of these years.

:)

#7 in the final Torvik rankings isn't too bad now is it?

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Been a great five seasons. Here's to many more!

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But....where TOE?
 

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