Agree, would it matter for first weekend location?Not much difference between a 2 and 3.
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Agree, would it matter for first weekend location?Not much difference between a 2 and 3.
The way things have gone lately for everyone 6th through 12th, I think a difference would be a 3 seed ISU potentially playing 2 seed Florida or UConn in the sweet 16.Not much difference between a 2 and 3.
It could. A 2 probably ensures St. Louis. It's possible to get it with a 3 anyway, but we'd be battling more teams.Agree, would it matter for first weekend location?
Yep. All of the teams this year that are going to be 2 and 3 seeds are really equal quality, you gotta beat one to get to the Elite Eight, so be it. Some of those teams would be harder beats for ISU than others, so we just gotta hope for a favorable bracket. And no Duke as our #1, please.Not much difference between a 2 and 3.
I know Florida seems like the much more dangerous team, I get that, but UConn in tourney is a lot different than regular season UConn. Wouldn’t be a fun matchup to get them either I wouldn’t think. I would still prefer that but still.The way things have gone lately for everyone 6th through 12th, I think a difference would be a 3 seed ISU potentially playing 2 seed Florida or UConn in the sweet 16.
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Great points. A 3 will not bother me if they end up there as long as the 2 is not the GatorsWhat you say is logical but I think it depends on how much the eye test is valued because visually Iowa State just doesn't look competitive in these games. Losing big to a BYU team that has gotten blown out by everybody else since Saunders went down and to a couple of likely non-tournament teams, same to Texas Tech without their best player who just went down to TCU at home, Arizona is understandable but they looked outmatched pretty badly. It's not just the losses, these are ugly losses to people who saw the games.
Ever since the reveal came out, the Cyclones have stumbled pretty badly so is it enough to drop them from 4 to 9? I'm not sure but I'd say that they're definitely teetering on the edge of dropping to a 3.
Florida is on the opposite side of the spectrum. None of the opponents they've beaten are particularly impressive, a function of a weakened SEC this season, but they've beaten the snot out of everybody and just look the part of a 1 seed even if the computer numbers don't bear that out. Iowa State has pretty good computer numbers and better wins than Florida but they just don't look like a highly competitive team when you see the games.
We agree on where they currently are in the overall, but I still think you're giving the committee members too much credit. I don't believe they are actively watching games. These are ADs and conference commissioners that are fed data and raw numbers in their day-to-day jobs, I can't imagine the tournament data is any different.No but they definitely watch the games especially as we near March, especially the nationally televised ones like the last 3 have been and it hasn't been in favor of Iowa State to say the least. I see a team that is on the bubble of a 2 to 3 seed, anywhere from 7th overall to 10th overall whereas they looked to be more like 4th-7th prior.
Nobody understands how college bb is a "March thing" better than Tom Izzo.Great points. A 3 will not bother me if they end up there as long as the 2 is not the Gators
Last night all kinds of ranked teams lost.
At this point will just wait and see... But most of the top 16 aside from 1 seeds and MSU are all limping home...
We were a 3 last year………
I don’t even know if this is interesting, but it’s so in the weeds it caught my attention
I don’t even know if this is interesting, but it’s so in the weeds it caught my attention
Just going by Bracket Matrix, here are how the regions could work out:
East
1: Duke
2: Michigan State
3: Texas Tech
4: Alabama
Midwest
1: Michigan
2: Houston
3: Purdue
4: Kansas
West
1: Arizona
2: Florida
3: Nebraska
4: Gonzaga
South
1: UConn
2: Illinois
3: Iowa State
4: Virginia
If Florida is #5, they won't put them in the east with Duke. South would be the next choice, but in order to separate teams, that doesn't work. Same for the Midwest.
These keeps the Top 4 Big 10 and Top 4 Big 12 teams in different regions.
If I take Bracketometry (the top rated one on Bracket Matrix, this is how it would go.
East
1: Duke
2: Michigan State
3: Iowa State
4: Gonzaga
Midwest
1: Michigan
2: Houston
3: Nebraska
4: Kansas
West
1: Arizona
2: Florida
3: Purdue
4: Virginia
South
1: UConn
2: Illinois
3: Texas Tech
4: Alabama
It will be tough regardless, but I would prefer a million times playing a Nebraska in the Sweet Sixteen than a Florida. Somehow staying on the 2 line would help us avoid a Florida if we were to drop to a 3 and be put in their region. They may get the 1 seed though... who knows.Yep. All of the teams this year that are going to be 2 and 3 seeds are really equal quality, you gotta beat one to get to the Elite Eight, so be it. Some of those teams would be harder beats for ISU than others, so we just gotta hope for a favorable bracket. And no Duke as our #1, please.
Honestly, this is better than I would’ve guessed. UCF holding steady, and Cincinnati and TCU turning it on probably helped. I do think it shows that Iowa State’s only chance of a 2 is hopping Illinois (not Michigan State)