2025-2026 MBB computer projections thread

Lunardi. When you see Lundardi says something you have a better chance that it is wrong than it is right.

That being said, I have no doubt that ISU is a 3 seed right now.

Over a 5 year average (must have at least 3 years contributing) on Bracket Matrix, Lunardi is ranked 125 out of 186 contributors. Jerry Palm is even worse at 179. The talking heads are awful.
 
It think we are both saying the same thing? I was saying this is wjy were not getting the nod over purdue

I'm not worried about Purdue. Both teams would currently fail the eyeball-recency-bias test, but Iowa State has the head-to-head

You could be right. MSU has to.play Michigan how they play them will have an impact


So let's take MSU out of it who besides Tech isn't limping to finish line? :-)

Florida has potentially played itself from a 3 to 1. Tech, as you said. Kansas is very volatile but will finish ahead of Iowa State in conference, has a better WAB, and always gets a brand boost. It's a small difference, but I think Houston and Illinois playing two cupcakes (Houston will have played three) to end the season will make them look like they're ascendant compared to Iowa State, who only plays one. If Nebraska wins out they could have a better WAB and NET ranking than Iowa State

Since Feb 1 overall:

Nebraska: 26
Mich St: 18
Illinois: 5
Houston: 8
ISU: 16

This is really interesting. Are these Torvik? If only the committee would look at this to assess "recent" performance...
 
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I'm not worried about Purdue. Both teams would currently fail the eyeball-recency-bias test, but Iowa State has the head-to-head



Florida has potentially played itself from a 3 to 1. Tech, as you said. Kansas is very volatile but will finish ahead of Iowa State in conference, has a better WAB, and always gets a brand boost. It's a small difference, but I think Houston and Illinois playing two cupcakes (Houston will have played three) to end the season will make them look like they're ascendant compared to Iowa State, who only plays one. If Nebraska wins out they could have a better WAB and NET ranking than Iowa State



This is really interesting. Are these Torvik? If only the committee would look at this to assess "recent" performance...

Different ways of looking at it. I don't think eyeball test is a huge difference especially against bad teams. Unless you lose of course

Again as long as Florida is not your 2, a 2 or 3 doesn't really make that much of a difference
 
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Over a 5 year average (must have at least 3 years contributing) on Bracket Matrix, Lunardi is ranked 125 out of 186 contributors. Jerry Palm is even worse at 179. The talking heads are awful.
I am an old person. My goal in life is to have people stop quoting Lunardi, DeCourcy and the other celebrity bracketologists and start using Bracket Matrix.
 
I am an old person. My goal in life is to have people stop quoting Lunardi, DeCourcy and the other celebrity bracketologists and start using Bracket Matrix.

I don't truly understand how they have jobs.

Lunardi is a complete dork that isn't even a good TV personality. You can overlook being bad to a certain extent if you at least deliver the message well. He does neither.
 
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It's probably too late for Iowa State to do anything meaningful to secure a 2 seed - even with a win Saturday and Big 12 Tournament wins/championship. If the committee acts like conference tournaments aren't a big deal as we saw two years ago then here comes the 3 seed.
 
Aren’t we likely to get KU early in the tourney? A convincing win over them would likely place us above them, taking 2 of 3. The game would be early enough for the committee to pay attention.
 
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It's probably too late for Iowa State to do anything meaningful to secure a 2 seed - even with a win Saturday and Big 12 Tournament wins/championship. If the committee acts like conference tournaments aren't a big deal as we saw two years ago then here comes the 3 seed.

If this team wins the Big 12 tournament, I think they'll be a 2 seed. We'd likely have to beat Kansas, Arizona, and Houston/Tech. That would most certainly do it.

Realistically, I think we are a 3 seed now because I don't see us winning 4 games in 4 days in KC against that level of opponents.
 
What do we think gets us back on the 2 line? Beat ASU + 2 wins in KC?
Crazy as it sounds, I can't imagine much will matter in KC. Basically the entire bracket is already finished before those games even take place.

I think alot of depends on how Illinois and MSU do this week. It looks like in all likely hood it will be ISU, Illinois, and MSU fighting for the last two 2 seeds.

Illinois is hosting Oregon and at Maryland.
MSU is hosting Rutgers, and at Michigan.

I can't imagine Illinois losing, but if they do, they are beyond cooked.
MSU will destroy Rutgers, but they got blown out at home against Michigan. Hopefully that happens again.
 
Crazy as it sounds, I can't imagine much will matter in KC. Basically the entire bracket is already finished before those games even take place.

I think alot of depends on how Illinois and MSU do this week. It looks like in all likely hood it will be ISU, Illinois, and MSU fighting for the last two 2 seeds.

Illinois is hosting Oregon and at Maryland.
MSU is hosting Rutgers, and at Michigan.

I can't imagine Illinois losing, but if they do, they are beyond cooked.
MSU will destroy Rutgers, but they got blown out at home against Michigan. Hopefully that happens again.

There are worse things than needing 2025-2026 Michigan to help you out. After what they did to an Illinois offense lightyears ahead of Michigan State's, I'm hopeful
 
I don't truly understand how they have jobs.

Lunardi is a complete dork that isn't even a good TV personality. You can overlook being bad to a certain extent if you at least deliver the message well. He does neither.

I think Lunardi started his schtick in the 90s when ESPN was still cool and since they have so little to do with the actual tournament they keep holding on for the name.
 
I'm not worried about Purdue. Both teams would currently fail the eyeball-recency-bias test, but Iowa State has the head-to-head



Florida has potentially played itself from a 3 to 1. Tech, as you said. Kansas is very volatile but will finish ahead of Iowa State in conference, has a better WAB, and always gets a brand boost. It's a small difference, but I think Houston and Illinois playing two cupcakes (Houston will have played three) to end the season will make them look like they're ascendant compared to Iowa State, who only plays one. If Nebraska wins out they could have a better WAB and NET ranking than Iowa State



This is really interesting. Are these Torvik? If only the committee would look at this to assess "recent" performance...
I think Tech just took themself off the 2 line discussion :-)

They could lose at BYU too ..

That's college basketball
 
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So instead of the 4th or 5th best teams in the country, the majority places this Cyclone team in the 7th-12th area. I can live with that.

After the Kansas & Cincinnati losses, I thought 5-2 was a realistic record over the next 7. They went 6-1, losing at TCU.
Then I saw 3-3 as a realistic final 6. I expected a loss to Houston, but beating TTech. Win Saturday and it's 3-3, 9-4 over the very challenging final 13 games.

Win Saturday and one game in the Big 12 tournament earns a 2-seed, although maybe 7th or 8th overall. I believe that's very doable.
I really hope you're correct. Hopefully no one is relying on the eye test...because we've burnt a few retinas with our shooting percentages lately.
 
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This is such a weird take. By an Iowa State fan.

23-3 with a legit #1 seed resume, by every single metric and eye test imaginable. Literal proof on the court results, backed up by the record, backed up by the analytics and predictive metrics. Yet, you were the "realistic" Cyclone fan that saw through that thinking - Nah.

Do we even want/care to be great? On February 21 - the very, very real opportunity existed for Iowa State to level up and go solidify their #1 seed resume. That is a really big deal to be in that position. The idea that losing all 3 of those ranked opportunities is "OK" is just an insane fan take to me. Are we really THAT f*cking scared of expectations? JFC. Maybe we need to ask Kenpom and Torvik and all the sites to factor in a "nervousy Cyclone fan energy" factor into their algos to ensure we don't look too good (in the numbers) at any point. That way us silly unrealistic fans don't get too overly excited or start getting too crazy with expectations based on past results. I mean, hell, after all - we weren't even predicted back in October to be in the Top 4 in the conference - See! See! We knew all along!
Easy, Rottweiler. Don't hurt him... ;-)
 

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