***2024 CFB Week 6 Games Thread***

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Part of the reason I think a small super League won't happen. Yeah the Big 12 might not pull too tier SEC numbers but they still pull good numbers and are a large chunk of inventory. Live sports are still very consistently viewed on TV and I don't think it makes sense for these networks to kneecap a good portion of the top few leagues to try and optimize for the top brands. You lose a large chunk of your inventory and now some of your large brands start losing a lot and their shine wears off.

That's my optimistic view. Pessimistic is immediate money trumps all
I don’t think a super league is going to happen, for a variety of reasons, but I feel like I could make a case with recent viewership trends that it really wouldn’t have the viewership downside that you would expect. For instance look at the Oregon State numbers after they got relegated out of a power conference and played on a channel that nobody is used to watching football on.

Also look at the viewership for all of the meaningless bowl games. Every year I read lots of belly aching about how there are way too many bowl games and we should just cancel half of them. But the reality is there are just too many people (like me) with nothing better to do than watch college football even if the results of the game have no real implications for anything other than the pride of the 2 teams playing that day.
 

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Part of the reason I think a small super League won't happen. Yeah the Big 12 might not pull too tier SEC numbers but they still pull good numbers and are a large chunk of inventory. Live sports are still very consistently viewed on TV and I don't think it makes sense for these networks to kneecap a good portion of the top few leagues to try and optimize for the top brands. You lose a large chunk of your inventory and now some of your large brands start losing a lot and their shine wears off.

That's my optimistic view. Pessimistic is immediate money trumps all
Depends on how the superleague is executed.

Consolidation to a P2 has been great for ratings. And more programs have legitimate playoff chances, and hence the opportunity to be relevant and play in “big games”

Taking the consolidation further, to a P1 of 20 or 24 schools that make more than anyone and dominate the CFP, but isn’t formally separate, is tenable.

It’s arguably better for the networks AND those outside the P2, as 12 to 14 schools are pushed down to join the middle class, allowing for several regional conferences, and without losing inventory or fan interest imo.

I don’t see the shine wearing off P1 programs that have more losses than historical. See the SEC of the last 30 years. For example, UF hasn’t lost stature during its down period. The P1 brand in itself will have so much value that the P1 programs can ride through lulls
 

MountainManHawk

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Depends on how the superleague is executed.

Consolidation to a P2 has been great for ratings. And more programs have legitimate playoff chances, and hence the opportunity to be relevant and play in “big games”

Taking the consolidation further, to a P1 of 20 or 24 schools that make more than anyone and dominate the CFP, but isn’t formally separate, is tenable.

It’s arguably better for the networks AND those outside the P2, as 12 to 14 schools are pushed down to join the middle class, allowing for several regional conferences, and without losing inventory or fan interest imo.

I don’t see the shine wearing off P1 programs that have more losses than historical. See the SEC of the last 30 years. For example, UF hasn’t lost stature during its down period. The P1 brand in itself will have so much value that the P1 programs can ride through lulls
Totally agree with all of this. There are multiple examples of blue bloods going through down periods but eventually coming back and even during the down periods it seems like there are always reasons to believe that the return to glory is imminent. That’s probably going to be even more true now with the transfer portal where you can bring in a bunch of high profile players every offseason.

Like FSU is obviously having a disaster of a year but I bet they are big spenders in the offseason so that by next August there is plenty of hype again. Part of it’s probably unwarranted bias but there are also some good reasons why the same schools are always ranked pre-season (best recruits, highest paid coaches, most wins historically, etc.).

It’s like that in the NFL as well. The Broncos haven’t been good since Peyton Manning but I swear every offseason there is some reason (new QB, new head coach, new coordinator, new first round draft pick, etc) to give fans hope and make you believe that this is the year they are going back to the playoffs.
 

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Depends on how the superleague is executed.

Consolidation to a P2 has been great for ratings. And more programs have legitimate playoff chances, and hence the opportunity to be relevant and play in “big games”

Taking the consolidation further, to a P1 of 20 or 24 schools that make more than anyone and dominate the CFP, but isn’t formally separate, is tenable.

It’s arguably better for the networks AND those outside the P2, as 12 to 14 schools are pushed down to join the middle class, allowing for several regional conferences, and without losing inventory or fan interest imo.

I don’t see the shine wearing off P1 programs that have more losses than historical. See the SEC of the last 30 years. For example, UF hasn’t lost stature during its down period. The P1 brand in itself will have so much value that the P1 programs can ride through lulls
I agree with some of what you have said on here but disagree on UF, they have 100% lost stature
 

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Vandy .vs. 'Bama???
The real question should be 'when' the poll is taken. Is it before, cumulative, middle, or end of the game. And 'how' is it sampled. I'm curious because I found myself progressively switching back to it as it developed for the pure thirst of seeing Bama lose. Did they count me multiple times?
 

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I agree with some of what you have said on here but disagree on UF, they have 100% lost stature
Nothing has been lost, just muted

We’ve seen it before with UF, in the Zook and Muschamp era

Ask anyone doing valuations or putting a list of national title capable schools, and UF is still top-10
 

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Nothing has been lost, just muted

We’ve seen it before with UF, in the Zook and Muschamp era

Ask anyone doing valuations or putting a list of national title capable schools, and UF is still top-10
Got a link or anything for that last statement because it’s 100% false
 

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Curious why you think Florida can’t be a Top 10 capable team to win a National title?
They certainly can be, but can is the operative word here. You could say that about alot of teams and Florida has some major issues right now including that they have to try to rise up in the hardest conference