2022 Recruiting/Transfer Class

Steve

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The fascination/optimism with Grill who is an average at best bench player just astounds me.
Grill might be more of a contributor on a team with a legitimate inside scoring threat. He might thrive as a spot up shooter with an inside-outside ball movement.

Opponents didn't have to respect last year's inside scoring options. Hopefully it will be a different story next year with the upgraded front court talent. I'm also assuming that Kyle Green will play a more prominent role with front court players now that D-Rob has moved on. He was typically very effective with what he had to work with for inside play at UNI. If a true inside game can be developed, Grill in addition to all of the wings will be getting better looks.
 

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I've always wondered how those percentages can be figured in a case like this. Can't be based on some mathematical data, so who puts a number on it? Just funny to me, that's all.
Someday he'll understand everything is 50/50.
 

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This league is going to be BRUTAL again.. Somewhere between 1/2-2/3 of the way through transfer season. 9/10 Big 12 teams are in the Torvik top 40.. ISU likely a low 30's team with AJ Green.

WV is WAY overrated in this model and TCU far too underappreciated IMO. But everything else looks about right to me. 9-9 in league play may be a tough but realistic goal
 
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This league is going to be BRUTAL again.. Somewhere between 1/2-2/3 of the way through transfer season. 9/10 Big 12 teams are in the Torvik top 40.. ISU likely a low 30's team with AJ Green.

WV is WAY overrated in this model and TCU far too underappreciated IMO. But everything else looks about right to me. 9-9 in league play may be a tough but realistic goal
We'll be better than KSU, OU, and WVU for sure with Green. Feel confident on that. I'm not sold on Texas yet either unless they got some guys I don't know of. That program is the definition of underachievers
 

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Hunter - Williams = moderate downgrade in talent, only a slight downgrade in production
Jackson - Holmes = Big upgrade in talent and production
Brockington - Hopefully AJ Green = push
Walker - Tre King = Big upgrade in talent and production
Conditt - Osun = Moderate upgrade talent and production
Enaruna - Hason Ward = push in talent and a moderate upgrade in production

Defensive interior is the biggest upgrade this offseason IMO. Landing AJ Green would REALLY elevate the team shooting as that is a large question mark without him.

Williams, Holmes, Green, Kalschuer and Grill would take A LOT of minutes on at 3 guard spots.
Jaz playing A TON before King is eligible and then doing 50/50 duty at the 4.
Osun, Ward and Jones likely doing a 60/30/10 split at the 5.

Outside of foul trouble, or Lipsey or King coming to campus with Steph Curry shooting. I don't think we see the freshman guards much. Much different story if AJ Green stays in the draft.

I can see 10-15 minutes a game open at the 4 spot until King is available. Do we go 4 guards and Osun/Ward against nobodies in the preseason? I think there is a big opportunity for Watson to come in and make a BIG impact. He's got the same height as Jaz with more athleticism. Am super interested to see if he can carve out a roll in the first semester. If he plays well, I think we see Jones eliminated from the lineup with Jaz being the third option in a small ball 5 lineup.
 
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Hunter - Williams = moderate downgrade in talent, only a slight downgrade in production
Jackson - Holmes = Big upgrade in talent and production
Brockington - Hopefully AJ Green = push
Walker - Tre King = Big upgrade in talent and production
Conditt - Osun = Moderate upgrade talent and production
Enaruna - Hason Ward = push in talent and a moderate upgrade in production

Defensive interior is the biggest upgrade this offseason IMO. Landing AJ Green would REALLY elevate the team shooting as that is a large question mark without him.

Williams, Holmes, Green, Kalschuer and Grill would take A LOT of minutes on at 3 guard spots.
Jaz playing A TON before King is eligible and then doing 50/50 duty at the 4.
Osun, Ward and Jones likely doing a 60/30/10 split at the 5.

Outside of foul trouble, or Lipsey or King coming to campus with Steph Curry shooting. I don't think we see the freshman guards much. Much different story if AJ Green stays in the draft.

I can see 10-15 minutes a game open at the 4 spot until King is available. Do we go 4 guards and Osun/Ward against nobodies in the preseason? I think there is a big opportunity for Watson to come in and make a BIG impact. He's got the same height as Jaz with more athleticism. Am super interested to see if he can carve out a roll in the first semester. If he plays well, I think we see Jones eliminated from the lineup with Jaz being the third option in a small ball 5 lineup.

My current theory is that until Tre King is eligible the 4 spot will be 50% Kunc, 25% Ward, and 25% small ball. Largely depends on whether Ward can play the 4 or if Watson can earn time as the backup. If we get AJG then the small ball % might also increase.
 
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My current theory is that until Tre King is eligible the 4 spot will be 50% Kunc, 25% Ward, and 25% small ball. Largely depends on whether Ward can play the 4 or if Watson can earn time as the backup. If we get AJG then the small ball % might also increase.

I pray to all things heavenly that we DO NOT play Osun and Ward on the court at the same time against anyway inside Kenpom's top 200. Remember how horrific the offense was with Enaruna and Conditt/Jones at the 4/5 spots.. Enaruna is more skilled away from the basket than Ward.

That's A LOT of pressure on the 3 guards if you put two centers on the court together.. Especially if one of those guards is Gabe who struggles to dribble under pressure and shoot.
 
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Hunter - Williams = moderate downgrade in talent, only a slight downgrade in production
Jackson - Holmes = Big upgrade in talent and production
Brockington - Hopefully AJ Green = push
Walker - Tre King = Big upgrade in talent and production
Conditt - Osun = Moderate upgrade talent and production
Enaruna - Hason Ward = push in talent and a moderate upgrade in production

Defensive interior is the biggest upgrade this offseason IMO. Landing AJ Green would REALLY elevate the team shooting as that is a large question mark without him.

Williams, Holmes, Green, Kalschuer and Grill would take A LOT of minutes on at 3 guard spots.
Jaz playing A TON before King is eligible and then doing 50/50 duty at the 4.
Osun, Ward and Jones likely doing a 60/30/10 split at the 5.

Outside of foul trouble, or Lipsey or King coming to campus with Steph Curry shooting. I don't think we see the freshman guards much. Much different story if AJ Green stays in the draft.

I can see 10-15 minutes a game open at the 4 spot until King is available. Do we go 4 guards and Osun/Ward against nobodies in the preseason? I think there is a big opportunity for Watson to come in and make a BIG impact. He's got the same height as Jaz with more athleticism. Am super interested to see if he can carve out a roll in the first semester. If he plays well, I think we see Jones eliminated from the lineup with Jaz being the third option in a small ball 5 lineup.
Osun is more than a moderate upgrade over Conditt. Osun was in several top20 transfer lists, Conditt would’ve been nowhere near that.
 

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Osun is more than a moderate upgrade over Conditt. Osun was in several top20 transfer lists, Conditt would’ve been nowhere near that.
Osun averaged 31 minutes while Conditt averaged only 18 minutes. So there really isn't much of a difference in rebounding especially when you consider how far George was away from the basket and the difference in competition. I'd say offensive production is a push (Conditt had one of the highest FG% in ISU history). Osun has a big advantage in terms of shot blocking.
 
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Osun averaged 31 minutes while Conditt averaged only 18 minutes. So there really isn't much of a difference in rebounding especially when you consider how far George was away from the basket and the difference in competition. I'd say offensive production is a push (Conditt had one of the highest FG% in ISU history). Osun has a big advantage in terms of shot blocking.

Good point. I'd also add that Conditt's freshman and sophomore numbers were very promising too, when he had good pg play and in a more post friendly offense.

TJ mentioned Osun's game expanding and playing him away from the basket...like Conditt
 

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Osun averaged 31 minutes while Conditt averaged only 18 minutes. So there really isn't much of a difference in rebounding especially when you consider how far George was away from the basket and the difference in competition. I'd say offensive production is a push (Conditt had one of the highest FG% in ISU history). Osun has a big advantage in terms of shot blocking.
Conditt also had one of the worst TO% in the country all four years. Something Osun has shown the ability to do.
 

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