Out of everyone that has declared for the LIV, I will only really miss DJ. With Bryson's aggressive swing, he will deal with injury issues the rest of his career. I won't miss Patty Reed at all.
***2022 PGA Tour Thread***
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LIV is a 6-event schedule, right? The PGA Tour would be better served to let them play and then welcome them back. If they suspend them, this story drags out and gives the LIV more longevity IMO.
Dustin Johnson has made $74 million in earnings on the PGA Tour. He signed a deal for $125 million to play the LIV events. Everyone would make that deal outside of a billionaire like Tiger Woods.
Just a mind-numbing amount of money being tossed around here. I'm afraid this becomes a money game and obviously the PGA Tour just cannot keep up with it. I think more and more guys will chase the paychecks as it becomes more acceptable to leave.
I guess I don't blame anyone for taking the money. A fraction of the work for 10x the pay. Who doesn't sign up for that? I just get sick of the needless grandstanding by these guys. McDowell yesterday went on a diatribe saying this wasn't "sportswashing" while explaining their role as the literal definition of sportswashing. Phil framing this as being done to create change within the PGA Tour when it's a money grab to pay off gambling debts.
Just call a spade a spade and I'd have much more respect for it.
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Yep, just say you left for the money and be done with it. He even went as far as saying that he sacrificed a lot to be on the PGA tour. LOL! What did he sacrifice? Working a menial job for peanuts and staying home? He got to travel the world and play golf for millions of dollars. Cry me a river!
That's why they'll eventually have to drop the us or them attitude, they can't compete with oil/blood money.
They have a big problem on their hands and I think their harsh response shows they know they are in trouble. If I'm the PGA I'm on my hands-and-knees begging the Majors to take some kind of action here. If guys can play the British, Masters and US Open, they aren't going to lose any sleep about not being able to play the Byron Nelson or the RBC Heritage Classic.
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The PGA tour is stale. Every single event is the exact same except the Ryder Cup, which is arguably the best event in all of golf. Instead of being creative, they’ve allowed terrible fields to be played on the exact same course style and setup with the exact same format.
The LIV field is arguably stronger than the ******* Canadian Open
The biggest problems are having to make the cut to make any money (the LIV Tour is guaranteeing $125k for dead last) and the fact that you are on your own for all of your expenses, so you can fly your coaches/caddy/families in, rent a house for a week and walk away with no money. It's a bad model that existed simply because there wasn't a viable alternative with enough financial backing to make it work.
The Saudis money is literally unlimited and they don't care if they ever make a dime off of it and that's why this is going to work
There's alot of truth to this. I really and truly could not have given a **** less about Billy Horschel bringing home whatever tournament that was last week. The one match play event a year is kind of fun, but I think they've realized having the big names knocked our early doesn't bode well for ratings.
So what has LIV done that is that different than the PGA Tour? I could care less about a shotgun start or not. It is still just golf at the end of the day.
This is nothing but a cash grab for the players and I don't blame them. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for them. But I don't think for a second that the LIV product will be any better than the PGA.
Obviously the PGA can't compete monetarily wise with the Saudis especially if the Saudis are willing to lose a lot of money, which they will. Doesn't mean there was anything wrong with the PGA model that worked for decades just fine.
They’re doing teams now and they’re just getting started. Alt shot event, best shot event, 7 club challenge event, shot clock event, etc. are all possible that have been ignored until now
The PGL has been trying to get the PGA tour to listen to their ideas and they just keep ignoring them
That all sounds kind of terrible to me, but I could be in the minority. Plus the PGA has a team event on the tour already.
That’s one event out of 50. The Sanderson Farm Classic is more interesting to you than an alternate shot event? Like for real?
It's obviously a purist versus entertainment thing. Some want more fun or interesting events that differ from other events and incorporating more gimmicky or balancing criteria. Others just want straight stroke play skillfests for all events.
I love golf and I'm also a purist. What can I say. I go to the Zurich every year and kind of wish it was just regular golf, but am OK with it because it is the only team event on the tour. I like the one on one aspect of Golf and Tennis.
