2022 NFL Draft

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FeedBreece

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Impressive roster for sure... would be fun if we led the B12 in draft picks in 2022. I think we might get an O-Lineman in there and Anthony Johnson too. Not sure if Uwazurike would get in or not. But if we could get a few fringe guys too we could have 7+ maybe? We'll see.. hope Bailey, Nwangwu get drafted or land in good spots as UDFA this year.
I think for the draft this year, Bailey’s the only hope to get drafted. I’m not sure what scouts think of him.

I do however think the likes of Soehner and Nwangu could have a chance in the NFL as undrafted guys. Soehner especially could be an interesting project for a team who wants a blocking specialist. He could maybe even be a rare tackle convert if he put on extra weight.
 

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When the ball is underthrown the defender and receiver slow down or stop and then both jump for the ball together. A guy like Butler just wins a lot of those jump balls.
The ball is underthrown, meaning the receiver isn't wide open or diving for the ball. This creates a "jump ball" situation. Whoever goes up and pulls it down, gets it. Butler rarely lost, if ever, one of those balls. So the ball was underthrown which created a "jump ball" situation.
You two don’t know what underthrown means.

You’ve successfully described “overthrown” and “threw behind” the receiver. Congratulations.

“Underthrown” is when a pass is thrown low, or short of the receiver, and they have to go down to get it. If it’s not already in the dirt.
 

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“Underthrown” is when a pass is thrown low, or short of the receiver, and they have to go down to get it. If it’s not already in the dirt.
Uh, no. If a receiver beats his man downfield, but has to wait on the ball rather than catching it in stride, the ball was underthrown.
 
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ZRF

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You two don’t know what underthrown means.

You’ve successfully described “overthrown” and “threw behind” the receiver. Congratulations.

“Underthrown” is when a pass is thrown low, or short of the receiver, and they have to go down to get it. If it’s not already in the dirt.
This can't be farther from the truth and is an oversimplified, and woefully inaccurate description of an underthrown ball. By definition underthrown is any ball that falls short of it's intended target OR falls short of where it SHOULD have been thrown. On many of those Butler throws the ball was, in fact, underthrown on many occasion.

Saying that an underthrown ball needs to be low is utterly preposterous.
 

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I don't know if McDonald gets drafted. Has a shot but still has some things to prove. I think right now though they have a shot to have the best draft ever for ISU and anywhere from 6-8 guys drafted. It is always hard to guess who gets drafted in the later rounds.
Anyone who is all big 12 first team, as a TRUE SOPHOMORE, usually gets drafted. Will McDonald did that this year. I don't care if he's on the lighter side, he's been torching big 12 tackles for two years now and is still getting batter.

I think by the end of the season he was Batman and Jaquan was Robin out there.
 

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Anyone who is all big 12 first team, as a TRUE SOPHOMORE, usually gets drafted. Will McDonald did that this year. I don't care if he's on the lighter side, he's been torching big 12 tackles for two years now and is still getting batter.

I think by the end of the season he was Batman and Jaquan was Robin out there.
I love JaQuan, but there’s an extra step McDonald has that Bailey did not.

Bailey is more of a bull rush guy. Which might be a problem for him at the next level. McDonald is pure winning speed off the edge. That’s something the next level salivates over. He just needs to prove he can have the strength as well.
 

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Anyone who is all big 12 first team, as a TRUE SOPHOMORE, usually gets drafted. Will McDonald did that this year. I don't care if he's on the lighter side, he's been torching big 12 tackles for two years now and is still getting batter.

I think by the end of the season he was Batman and Jaquan was Robin out there.
I don't disagree with anything you said, but McDonald was a redshirt sophomore this season.
 

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Uh, no. If a receiver beats his man downfield, but has to wait on the ball rather than catching it in stride, the ball was underthrown.
This can't be farther from the truth and is an oversimplified, and woefully inaccurate description of an underthrown ball. By definition underthrown is any ball that falls short of it's intended target OR falls short of where it SHOULD have been thrown. On many of those Butler throws the ball was, in fact, underthrown on many occasion.

Saying that an underthrown ball needs to be low is utterly preposterous.
So all your life, you’ve misunderstood what “underthrown” means. And then you argue about it.




Need any more? Do I need to define “short” next?
 
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So all your life, you’ve misunderstood what “underthrown” means. And then you argue about it.
Need any more? Do I need to define “short” next?
Umm... your sources all match their definition (especially @ZRF's). And yours is substantially different. :oops:
 

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Charlie was told he needs to improve his speed.
Looks like he's a 4.7-4.8 40 guy. If he could consistently get on the lower side of that scale, you'd think he'd be good. He's never going to be Vernon Davis athletically, but he's a lot bigger than Davis was, so he would be filing a different role.
 

ZRF

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So all your life, you’ve misunderstood what “underthrown” means. And then you argue about it.




Need any more? Do I need to define “short” next?
Can you read (as in seriously)? You just quoted definitions that prove my stance and debunk yours. The ball can be short of the intended target (receiver or spot) WITHOUT being low. Did you graduate from Iowa?
 
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ZRF

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Umm... your sources all match their definition (especially @ZRF's). And yours is substantially different. :oops:
I know, right? A ball can fall short of it's target without being low. An underthrown low throw over the middle that's underthrown will likely be "low' in relation to the spot or receiver. Almost every deep throw will likely drop from a higher angle, making them not "low". I'm not sure if he's just trying to pick a fight or can't understand the distinction (when everyone else does).
 

ZRF

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I love JaQuan, but there’s an extra step McDonald has that Bailey did not.

Bailey is more of a bull rush guy. Which might be a problem for him at the next level. McDonald is pure winning speed off the edge. That’s something the next level salivates over. He just needs to prove he can have the strength as well.
He needs to get closer to 250 (while not losing quickness) and show some more versatility in every down situations.

With that said he's the most athletic guy relative to position we have on this team. He's a first round pick if he can play like he did this year and add the above. He's a stud.