2022-2023 MBB computer projections thread

isutrevman

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Oklahoma is the worst ranked Big 12 team on Kenpom at 37. We are second worst at 34. This is crazy.

All 10 teams are in NCAA tournament range.


Over half the Big Ten is rankings lower than Oklahoma (9) teams)
6 ACC teams are ranked lower that OU
6 SEC teams are ranked lower than OU
8 Pac 12 teams are ranked lower than OU
6 Big East teams are ranked lower than OU

I don't know if a conference has ever had this high of a floor. The worst Big 12 team would be near the middle or in the top half of all other P6 conferences.

What is it that's made the Big 12 so dominate the past 6-8 years? Outside of Texas, the states aren't exactly recruiting hotbeds.
 

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My favorite (personal preference) statistical analysis site is haslametrics.com. It tends to be more volatile then other computer rankings - but the game analysis and the types of metrics are nice and I like the simple layout.

One of the things he does is break every shot down to "near proximity", "mid-range" and "3 point" - and then from that generates a "proximity" metric. He has our defense at #8 overall - but we've been consistently #1 in the proximity metric on defense (the best in the country at limiting shots close to the rim). On the flip side, though, we give up one of the highest FG% of those shots.

So we limit shots at the rim, but when we do give them up, they always go in.

Conversely, TCU is #1 in the Proximity metric on offense - due to their fast breaks and offensive rebounding.

Will be fascinating to watch on Saturday
 

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I see they have us beating Mizzu, now. That was like 35% chance before the Iowa game.
 

davegilbertson

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Oklahoma is the worst ranked Big 12 team on Kenpom at 37. We are second worst at 34. This is crazy.

All 10 teams are in NCAA tournament range.


Over half the Big Ten is rankings lower than Oklahoma (9) teams)
6 ACC teams are ranked lower that OU
6 SEC teams are ranked lower than OU
8 Pac 12 teams are ranked lower than OU
6 Big East teams are ranked lower than OU

I don't know if a conference has ever had this high of a floor. The worst Big 12 team would be near the middle or in the top half of all other P6 conferences.

What is it that's made the Big 12 so dominate the past 6-8 years? Outside of Texas, the states aren't exactly recruiting hotbeds.
Coaching and AD that weren't content to be the bottom dwellers.

KU and Baylor were for the most part the tops, with some rotating cast in that next tier. KSU, Texas Tech, Texas, ISU, Oklahoma and West Virginia.

Then TCU invested in Dixon and OSU has too much pride to sit in the bottom.
 

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My favorite (personal preference) statistical analysis site is haslametrics.com. It tends to be more volatile then other computer rankings - but the game analysis and the types of metrics are nice and I like the simple layout.

One of the things he does is break every shot down to "near proximity", "mid-range" and "3 point" - and then from that generates a "proximity" metric. He has our defense at #8 overall - but we've been consistently #1 in the proximity metric on defense (the best in the country at limiting shots close to the rim). On the flip side, though, we give up one of the highest FG% of those shots.

So we limit shots at the rim, but when we do give them up, they always go in.

Conversely, TCU is #1 in the Proximity metric on offense - due to their fast breaks and offensive rebounding.

Will be fascinating to watch on Saturday
I'm guessing the only time we give up shots at the rim are on complete defensive breakdowns or off of offense rebounds.
 

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It’s the 10 team round robin that has elevated the Big XII.

Basketball is going to take a hit for sure in realignment. I still miss the Big 8 days, then we got kicked in the balls with the Big 12. Then I was happy again with the new Big 12 (10 teams). Now another disappointment with the new new Big 12. Wish we had only added Houston and BYU or Cincy now to stay at 10 (for now).
 

isutrevman

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I'm guessing the only time we give up shots at the rim are on complete defensive breakdowns or off of offense rebounds.
We also basically don't even try to block shots, which I'm kind of a fan of as it leads to fouling more, giving up more offensive rebounds if you don't get the block and many blocks don't lead to a change of possession since they're often blocked out of bounds or go back to an offensive player.
 

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We also basically don't even try to block shots, which I'm kind of a fan of as it leads to fouling more, giving up more offensive rebounds if you don't get the block and many blocks don't lead to a change of possession since they're often blocked out of bounds or go back to an offensive player.

Shoon averaged 2.7 blocks per game in 111 games over 4 years at St Bonnies.

he's averaging 0.5 blocks per game this year, which is - as you are said - completely intentional