ISU officially discontinuing gymnastics

So you’re calling an accomplished ISU gymnast, who won the Big 12 all-around title as a freshman (yes over KJ’s Sooners) “ignorant.”
Gotcha…
Kinda think she has more insight into this than you do.

She clearly doesn't though because Jamie put his nuts on the line when he turned over our AD's cornerstone program to Fred Hoiberg.
 
Does she like basketball? Just sayin. That won't go away.
Even if someone likes basketball, it's a sport dominated by tall people. Even though she's young, I can tell my daughter is unlikely to find much success in basketball and more likely to enjoy participating in and watching gymnastics.

The whole thing is just sad to me. Youth sports participation has consistently been shown to have a positive impact on people's lives. My best sport growing up was baseball. I have good memories attending ISU baseball camp and going to ISU baseball games with my dad.

I view it as a loss that our public universities are no longer able to foster a diverse set of sports to provide the opportunity for college student athletes and then also not provide role models to the community across those sports. And why is it the case? The only reason I see is it's because football now brings in 10s-100s of millions of dollars instead of only millions of dollars.
 
Unfortunate, but probably the right decision. I had not realized only two Big 12 programs had women's gymnastics (ISU and WVU) until the conference added Utah, BYU and the AZ schools.

Looks like the transfer portal for WGym opens late April. Someone needs to get Campbell's number to the ladies.

I look forward to women's wrestling.
 
I was just kind of going off with gymnastics had for expenses, and they can’t have too much and travel and other stuff due to what the scholarships coaching and equipment on insurance all that stuff would cost.
If you look at Gymnastics, Softball, Volleyball, Golf, and Soccer as comps, equipment/uniforms/supplies is between $68k-$110k, travel is between $190k-$412k, non-travel meals is between $127k-$237k, recruiting is between $18k-72k, games expenses is between $37k-95k, and other operating expenses between $27k-$46k. So a rock bottom number that doesn't include coaches comp, scholarships, facilities, and overhead/risk management is $500,000.
 
If you look at Gymnastics, Softball, Volleyball, Golf, and Soccer as comps, equipment/uniforms/supplies is between $68k-$110k, travel is between $190k-$412k, non-travel meals is between $127k-$237k, recruiting is between $18k-72k, games expenses is between $37k-95k, and other operating expenses between $27k-$46k. So a rock bottom number that doesn't include coaches comp, scholarships, facilities, and overhead/risk management is $500,000.
I was also looking at the other teams with women’s wrestling. A lot were around Iowa so I figured vans or a bus for travel.

Equipment would be low with already having a room.
 
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This really sucks for the kids and people that really are into gymnastics but really how many people were attending the sport when we had a meet?
I guess it's just human nature to complain about change, but the program was struggling, and money is tight throughout the athletic department. Sure I would love for ISU to have a great gymnastic program and bring back baseball, but I also understand that in the times we are a living, they cost a lot of money which we do not have and few people are attending their meets. Just be happy we could afford to have it when we did.
 
This really sucks for the kids and people that really are into gymnastics but really how many people were attending the sport when we had a meet?
I guess it's just human nature to complain about change, but the program was struggling, and money is tight throughout the athletic department. Sure I would love for ISU to have a great gymnastic program and bring back baseball, but I also understand that in the times we are a living, they cost a lot of money which we do not have and few people are attending their meets. Just be happy we could afford to have it when we did.
I was at the Utah meet (which oddly enough will go down as the last home meet in school history), and I'd say there was probably about 3k there. Utah also had a decent showing of fans, but they take their program pretty seriously, so it makes sense they have a decent following on the road.
 
One less facility since we already have the wrestling room. Might be able to have both use it? 10 schollys at 30k each and 2-3 coaches at 500k total would be a savings of 1 MM if you throw in 100-200k for travel and incidentals.

NYTimes reported that ISU spent $1.69 million on WGym in FY2025.

 
eSports team! There are high schools that have them and I would guess there is already a club team at ISU.


Just kidding. I don't know anything about it, but assume it is a bunch of kids playing video games.