ISU officially discontinuing gymnastics
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I think Title 9 isn't sport vs sport but actually scholarship vs scholarship - and football skews it massively to men's.
As a gymnastics alum, my heart is broken. What I was proud to be part of is now gone. Pollard never answered any questions and placed blame. Will never respect the guy again.
Thanks, that’s what I was leaning towards as well.
But overall, sounds like it was a toxic environment that most never got fixed.
Does it really matter if we add a sport that is already part of the B12 conference? Lacrosse is one and only Colorado, Cincy, and Ariz St are the only B12 teams. Florida, San Diego St, and UC Davis are the other 3 schools.
We're probably already fine from a Title IX standpoint. I believe the women's side had been slightly over-represented, and removing gymnastics probably doesn't swing the needle hard enough the other direction to be a problem.
"To be a Division I member, FBS schools must sponsor a minimum of 16 sports, which must include at least a minimum of six sports involving all-male teams or mixed teams of males and females, and a minimum of eight varsity intercollegiate sports (including a maximum of two emerging sports) involving all-female teams."
The NCAA considers indoor and outdoor T&F separate sports. So we're actually at 17 after removing gymnastics: 7 men's (BB, XC, FB, Golf, Indoor TF, Outdoor TF, WR) and 10 women's (BB, XC, Golf, Soccer, SB, Swim/Dive, Tennis, Indoor TF, Outdoor TF, VB).
Take her to basketball games.
I'm with Agclone91. My daughter loved going to gymnastics meets and loves going to basketball games, but she'd rather watch gymnastics than basketball.
Good, time to axe all non-revenue sports and throw it all on FB, MBB, WBB and wrestling.
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I find it ridiculous that we're now in the 'free market' era of college athletics, and at the same time attempting to hold on to Title IX rules.
Seems like an unnecessary response. Clearly I can take her to basketball games - the point is that she is interested in gymnastics and now we no longer have that potential bonding experience of combining my love for Iowa State with an interest of hers.
If we’re going to add a sport, I’m on team women’s wrestling. Having some shared facilities and resources would be nice for the budget.
I'm saying the NCAA and The Big 12 need to get rid of rules requiring min. # of sports.
Wondering if this is more to do with money. So ISU can still drop one more sport from either gender that loses money?
There is definitely a legal problem here that someone will eventually have to contend with. T9 was never designed with the current state of college sports in mind. It does not fit that mold whatsoever. Forcing colleges to continue adhering to T9 is quite literally costing them millions of dollars a year, at a time when massive scrutiny is placed on college funding and costs, on the back of a sports system that is now dominated by money in amounts that were not possible to foresee in the seventies
Why stop there? Ax WBB and wrestling they both lose money too.
We'll get to the point eventually that FB and maybe MBB isn't officially part of the University anymore. It might take 5 years could take 50, but it's coming. Then maybe the rest can return to normal geographically centered conferences.
Does she like basketball? Just sayin. That won't go away.
I would be SHOCKED if this isn't the case.
And it's the right call regardless in the current athletics environment. If Jamie is good at his job he should be doing the bare minimum required to be an NCAA member and compliant so he can divert resources at the maximum level to FB and MBB.
