*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

Clonefan32

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I’m not dealing him unless I’m confident about Tucker

My thought on this really hasn't changed. I don't think Caissie is untouchable, but he should be untouchable for a rental. Don't give him up unless you can get a guy with multiple years of control.
 
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Cubs won’t trade Caissie just to trade Caissie. But the Royals and Marlins both really like Caissie. The Cubs really like Cabrera and Bubic. Both are cheap and controlled.

I do not see a world Caissie is traded for guys like Keller or Sandy, where the Cubs are not only trading a top prospect but also eating $18M/Year.

I also do not see a world Caissie is traded for a rental.

However, I’m like 80% sure Caissie is traded this deadline, because I think Cabrera or Bubic will be Cubs in the next 8 days. And if I’m a betting man, Sunday will be the day a move happens. Bubic pitches Saturday, he had some ugly analytics his last outting. Cabrera pitches Monday. The Cubs will know by Saturday night who the best option will be, and if it is Cabrera, they will do what they can to keep him from starting on Monday.
 

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My wish list today:

1) Cabrera as your frontline starter
2) Soroka as a backend inning eater. Will be incredibly cheap.
3) Soto, also cheap.
4) Bednar, cheap
5) Willi Castro, cheap.

Cabrera is the only one who would have much impact on your farm.
 

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Trading your best player in a year where you're one of the best teams in baseball and an obvious World Series contender would be a top 5 dumbest move in the history of baseball level choice.

Busch, PCA, Suzuki, etcs numbers look like they do because of Tucker's presence in the lineup. You take him out and all of a sudden they see far fewer fastballs and anything near the zone. You don't replace a guy that doesn't strike out with a guy with a giant strike out rate for two more homers over the course of 60 games.

As for Caissie, he's probably an overpay for about anybody that's going to be available other than a package that gets you Joe Ryan AND Jhoan Duran.

This needs to be said more. Tucker makes an enormous difference, a game-changer for the whole team. It's essential to break the bank to keep that guy.
 

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This needs to be said more. Tucker makes an enormous difference, a game-changer for the whole team. It's essential to break the bank to keep that guy.

I don't care if it costs those cheap pricks 2 billion dollars, if they let Tucker walk I'm done with this organization until they sell or die and I'll give the heirs a chance.
 

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I don't care if it costs those cheap pricks 2 billion dollars, if they let Tucker walk I'm done with this organization until they sell or die and I'll give the heirs a chance.

I have a limerick in mind of my thoughts for any front office people who fail to sign Tucker. It's not family friendly, but it says it all.
 
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This hot streak for Owen Caissie could not have come at a better time. I would love for him to be hitting 40 homers in Wrigley in a couple years, but I'm worried about the strikeouts.

Sell him at his highest value.
 
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This hot streak for Owen Caissie could not have come at a better time. I would love for him to be hitting 40 homers in Wrigley in a couple years, but I'm worried about the strikeouts.

Sell him at his highest value.
I agree. 35% strike out rate is too high unless he hits 40 home run regularly in the major.
 

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Not what I suggested. I suggested two controllable pitchers for Tucker, Keller and Bendar. Suarez can be had for far less than Caissie, but if you deal Tucker Suarez can get you comparable production.

Personally I’d rather keep Tucker as well but if we gut our system to fill our needs then lose Tucker in free agency I’m going to be sick for a long long time.
Just because you made it a three team deal in your suggestion doesn't mean you arent spending prospect capital. You can just make a deal for Keller and Bednar and not have the swap Tucker/Suarez swap and not have to "gut the system".
 

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I like Gore a lot. The two things keeping me from thinking he is a Cub is it sounds like the Nats have an unrealistic asking price and there’s some concern some that some of his numbers are dropping a bit over the last month or so
 

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I like Gore a lot. The two things keeping me from thinking he is a Cub is it sounds like the Nats have an unrealistic asking price and there’s some concern some that some of his numbers are dropping a bit over the last month or so
I also can't imagine ownership allowing an interim front office to make that kind of franchise changing move.
 
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Just because you made it a three team deal in your suggestion doesn't mean you arent spending prospect capital. You can just make a deal for Keller and Bednar and not have the swap Tucker/Suarez swap and not have to "gut the system".
Everyone that responded missed the point that I went out of my way to clarify. IF WE AREN’T confident about resigning Tucker I’d rather deal him now for what we need with controllable guys. If you do that we could afford Suarez and Schwarber for about the same money we’d be giving Tucker ( or at least close). Trading Caissie and losing Tucker would be a huge blow to our future
 

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Everyone that responded missed the point that I went out of my way to clarify. IF WE AREN’T confident about resigning Tucker I’d rather deal him now for what we need with controllable guys. If you do that we could afford Suarez and Schwarber for about the same money we’d be giving Tucker ( or at least close). Trading Caissie and losing Tucker would be a huge blow to our future
Even if you don't resign Tucker this offseason....They would not trade him at the deadline with the assets you gave up to acquire him in this past offseason. That would go down as the two worse trades of all time
 

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Am I the only one that doesn't love looking at Schwarber?

He doesn't fit the profile of this team at all and you're still going to need the DH spot for Suzuki or to give guys half days. He can't run, can't defend and strikes out 200 times a year.
 

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Everyone that responded missed the point that I went out of my way to clarify. IF WE AREN’T confident about resigning Tucker I’d rather deal him now for what we need with controllable guys. If you do that we could afford Suarez and Schwarber for about the same money we’d be giving Tucker ( or at least close). Trading Caissie and losing Tucker would be a huge blow to our future
Nobody missed the point. At least you admitted it would be unpopular.