Texas Tech 10 Million Dollar Portal Season

[FriendlySpartan]

I don't think anybody thinks that college football is in a healthy spot. Hell, I agree that they're leaving money on the table, the problem becomes there isn't an appetite or desire for anything to change because the parties with power don't want it to.

Exactly this, rights negotiations also don’t fix what is “wrong” with football and a lot of people would be hard pressed to tell you that anything is even wrong.

Fix the period the portal is opened, follow the new legislation and your in pretty good shape. Everyone isn’t going to be able to compete in college football but as always, most people were never competing in the first place

Also, of course, puppets

 

[cykadelic2]

Exactly this, rights negotiations also don’t fix what is “wrong” with football and a lot of people would be hard pressed to tell you that anything is even wrong.

Fix the period the portal is opened, follow the new legislation and your in pretty good shape. Everyone isn’t going to be able to compete in college football but as always, most people were never competing in the first place

Also, of course, puppets

You obviously missed the memo on media rights pooling projected to double media revenues. Any mechanism or power manipulation that is an obstacle to those revenues doubling needs to be eliminated for the overall benefit of college athletics and the opportunities that they offer. Anyone who suggests otherwise as you do here has their head up their ass.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

You obviously missed the memo on media rights pooling projected to double media revenues. Any mechanism or power manipulation that is an obstacle to those revenues doubling needs to be eliminated for the overall benefit of college athletics and the opportunities that they offer. Anyone who suggests otherwise as you do here has their head up their ass.

Actually it’s more that anyone that suggests otherwise isn’t benefiting from the position of power.

Btw I don’t have a problem with this concept like I’ve said, but there is zero way to convince the P2 that giving up their competitive advantage through higher media payouts is good for their programs.

 

[cykadelic2]

I don't think anybody thinks that college football is in a healthy spot. Hell, I agree that they're leaving money on the table, the problem becomes there isn't an appetite or desire for anything to change because the parties with power don't want it to.

The only parties that don’t want change are ESPN and Fox and their puppets, Sankey and Pettiti.

If there was a vote on one of these two options, the core ten B10 ADs and Presidents would overwhelmingly vote for B:

A) 18 schools with existing revenue streams
B). 10 core schools with potentially a 75% increase in revenue streams

And there are indications that guys like Ross Bjork and some B10 Presidents are becoming aligned with Campbell.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

The only parties that don’t want change are ESPN and Fox and their puppets, Sankey and Pettiti.

If there was a vote on one of these two options, the core ten B10 ADs and Presidents would overwhelmingly vote for B:

A) 18 schools with existing revenue streams
B). 10 core schools with potentially a 75% increase in revenue streams

And there are indications that guys like Ross Bjork and some B10 Presidents are becoming aligned with Campbell.

Ahh yes, Rose Bjork because Ohio State is just itching to give up their competitive advantages. I mean the system is obv not working for Ohio State, it’s almost been a whole 6 months since they last won a national title.

Man the stuff you believe is just incredible

 

[TitanClone]

I dont know the details but I see his name thrown around alot about saving college athletics by working to put guardrails in place. Probably not a topic that can be discussed in this forum.

He's also talked about his meetings with Trump and Trump wanting the same thing. So he likely means working to enrich private entities.

 

[cykadelic2]

Ahh yes, Rose Bjork because Ohio State is just itching to give up their competitive advantages. I mean the system is obv not working for Ohio State, it’s almost been a whole 6 months since they last won a national title.

Man the stuff you believe is just incredible

Ohio State will make more money with media rights pooling and that will enable them to not relegate some of their sports to the club level as Bjork has suggested may happen. And the significant gap that Ohio St and the B10 currently have with media revenues will remain with unequal revenue sharing that is based on TV ratings.

Bjork is also fed up with Fox’s insistence on overly prioritizing the Big Noon window and not being flexible with their scheduling.

And Bjork has requested the CFP to modify their schedule so the championship game is not played after mid January and avoid NFL conflicts that trigger the foolish sub licensing of games by ESPN and devalue the CFP contract which Campbell singled out in his interview with 365 during B12 media days. And the best way to move up the CFP Championship Game is to move to 10-team conferences, play a round robin schedule, get rid of the conference championship games the first weekend in December and instead play the first round of a 16 team CFP that weekend instead of the 3rd weekend in December.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

Given the vast majority of other programs with wealthy boosters were doing likewise, one can understand Campbell's motives in propping up TT during the "no guardrails" period.

Agreed. I want to believe his intentions are good. If nothing else, he wants to even the playing field in media money and cap salaries. I am sure he doesn’t want to keep spending his own money for the rest of his life. He’d rather the sports media funds TTU.

 

[cykadelic2]

Agreed. I want to believe his intentions are good. If nothing else, he wants to even the playing field in media money and cap salaries. I am sure he doesn’t want to keep spending his own money for the rest of his life. He’d rather the sports media funds TTU.

There is definitely big booster fatigue as mentioned in the USA article on Campbell:

"USA TODAY Sports spoke with more than 10 boosters at high profile power conference schools, and only one outside of Campbell would talk on the record about the fluid crapshoot that is NIL and paying players. Every booster contacted said there’s a limit to the giving — and it’s arriving sooner than later. “NIL space for boosters is like throwing money into a deep, dark hole with little to no return on the investment,” said Florida booster Gary Condron. “Nobody likes this. Not athletic directors, not coaches, not boosters. The only ones who like it are the players, and the attorneys and agents.”

Regarding "even the playing field in media money", Campbell's plan would actually have an element of unequal revenue sharing where a portion of the pooled media revenue pie would be allocated to conferences/schools based on TV ratings. So while every P4 school would potentially double media revenues with rights pooling, the likes of Ohio St would still make more money than anyone else with the proposed unequal revenue sharing model. I think even the B10 Fan Boys here can agree that would be desirable for all P4 schools, including those in the B10.

 

[ClubCy]

Outside of Sparty and the local media rights guys monthly argument about the same thing…


What would be people reaction if we had a donor willing to pay what Campbell is? Specifically those who don’t like it.

Why is Texas Tech being the poster child nationally for this as being bad when Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon all spend just as much or the same? Because it’s little ol’ Texas Tech?

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Outside of Sparty and the local media rights guys monthly argument about the same thing…


What would be people reaction if we had a donor willing to pay what Campbell is? Specifically those who don’t like it.

Why is Texas Tech being the poster child nationally for this as being bad when Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon all spend just as much or the same? Because it’s little ol’ Texas Tech?

I think that’s exactly why it is. It’s coming from a surprising source that frankly hasn’t been relevant in football since leach. You have to go back 17 years for the last time they won more than 8 games.

It also doesn’t help that this guy is being extremely vocal about this. Oregon has been on this path for a long time so it’s old news and OSU has been pretty constantly great so it’s not a surprise.

I also honestly kinda laugh at the idea that even if the media dollars went up that this would somehow save Olympic sports. Media dollars have skyrocketed in the past decade and all it really did was funnel more money to revenue sports and facilities. I don’t see that changing if every school got a bump from joint sharing, it just means we would have head coaches making 15-20mil per year and more stadium expansions for revenue sports

 

[cykadelic2]

Why is Texas Tech being the poster child nationally for this as being bad when Ohio State, Texas, and Oregon all spend just as much or the same? Because it’s little ol’ Texas Tech?

TT is being singled out because they are reportedly spending more "NIL" pre-House on all sports combined than any other school and the vast majority of their funding is coming from only two guys, Cody Campbell and John Sellers. Then you factor in Campbell's relationship with the POTUS (he is now "The Commission" and no one else) and his very public lobbying for codification of House and reform of the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act to enable CFB media rights pooling.

So yeah, Campbell and TT are being singled out and understandably so. And regarding "being bad" in doing so, that's BS. TT/Campbell were acting accordingly without any NIL guardrails and even Yormark acknowledged that this past week and supported their actions. And Yormark fully supported Campbell making the rounds with various outlets this past week speaking about his reform proposals.

 

[cykadelic2]

I also honestly kinda laugh at the idea that even if the media dollars went up that this would somehow save Olympic sports. Media dollars have skyrocketed in the past decade and all it really did was funnel more money to revenue sports and facilities. I don’t see that changing if every school got a bump from joint sharing, it just means we would have head coaches making 15-20mil per year and more stadium expansions for revenue sports

You are badly missing the boat here.

The doubling of media dollars were certainly save the vast majority of existing Olympic sports and the SCORE bill being presented to Congress (and advocated by the P4 Commissioners) would facilitate the retention of those sports. And even if the bill doesn't get through, the negative political fallout for P4 ADs and Presidents would be immense if media revenues doubled and Olympic sports still get cut.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

TT is being singled out because they are reportedly spending more "NIL" pre-House on all sports combined than any other school and the vast majority of their funding is coming from only two guys, Cody Campbell and John Sellers. Then you factor in Campbell's relationship with the POTUS (he is now "The Commission" and no one else) and his very public lobbying for codification of House and reform of the 1961 Sports Broadcasting Act to enable CFB media rights pooling.

So yeah, Campbell and TT are being singled out and understandably so. And regarding "being bad" in doing so, that's BS. TT/Campbell were acting accordingly without any NIL guardrails and even Yormark acknowledged that this past week and supported their actions. And Yormark fully supported Campbell making the rounds with various outlets this past week speaking about his reform proposals.

What happens when this reform happens to the Broadcasting Act and the Big Ten and SEC just say 'thanks, we're good doing what we're doing'? Do you believe that congress steps in and forces them into this pooling that they don't want any part of?

You need to realize that none of these proposals are coming from anybody with any power. You can't just compel two independent bodies to enter into something because reasons. They have no reason to come to the table, no desire to come to the table and absolutely no obligation to anyone to come to the table.

 

[cykadelic2]

What happens when this reform happens to the Broadcasting Act and the Big Ten and SEC just say 'thanks, we're good doing what we're doing'? Do you believe that congress steps in and forces them into this pooling that they don't want any part of?

You need to realize that none of these proposals are coming from anybody with any power. You can't just compel two independent bodies to enter into something because reasons. They have no reason to come to the table, no desire to come to the table and absolutely no obligation to anyone to come to the table.

The political fallout from the B10 and SEC refusing to double the media revenue pie solely to appease ESPN and Fox would be overwhelming.

Yeah, the SEC and B10 refusing to nearly double revenues (and help support/retain Olympic sports) while maintaining their revenue advantage with unequal revenue sharing would look really great. It would be truly comical witnessing the ESPN and Fox puppets, Sankey and Pettiti, looking like foolish idiots publicly trying to defend their stance on that.

And the proposal to modify the Broadcasting Act would come with full support of the POTUS who is obviously on the same page as Cody Campbel and has retained him on these matters. That solves your idiotic comment on me needing to realize that none of these proposals are coming from anyone with any power.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Lulz. House sure fixed everything. Get it codified!!!!

 

[CyTuT]

What happens when this reform happens to the Broadcasting Act and the Big Ten and SEC just say 'thanks, we're good doing what we're doing'? Do you believe that congress steps in and forces them into this pooling that they don't want any part of?

You need to realize that none of these proposals are coming from anybody with any power. You can't just compel two independent bodies to enter into something because reasons. They have no reason to come to the table, no desire to come to the table and absolutely no obligation to anyone to come to the table.

I’m certain that Congress would/will mess this up if they get their hands on it. Title IX or some other way to threaten university funds will give them the power they need. Otherwise, they’d have to leave the college sports and go on their own.

 

[cykadelic2]

Lulz. House sure fixed everything. Get it codified!!!!

This is an excerpt from the Dellenger article:

"In the letter, Kessler notes that the “valid business purpose” rule in the settlement “was meant to prohibit NIL collectives from simply receiving donations and paying athletes for play,” it reads. “It does not, however, prohibit a NIL collective from paying athletes itself — not as a marketing agent for others — if the payment is ‘for a valid business purpose’ related to the promotion or endorsement of goods or services provided to the general public for profit.”

How in the hell can Kessler justify a non-profit collective paying an athlete to promote or endorse goods and services provided to the general for profit? That was the rationale for the rejection of deals submitted by collectives. Collectives can certainly match up for profit businesses with athletes as Blum is going to do but having a non-profit Collectives directly pay athletes to endorse for profit goods/services is senseless.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

It made it 9 days before they have to make major changes.

 

[MountainManHawk]

This is an excerpt from the Dellenger article:

"In the letter, Kessler notes that the “valid business purpose” rule in the settlement “was meant to prohibit NIL collectives from simply receiving donations and paying athletes for play,” it reads. “It does not, however, prohibit a NIL collective from paying athletes itself — not as a marketing agent for others — if the payment is ‘for a valid business purpose’ related to the promotion or endorsement of goods or services provided to the general public for profit.”

How in the hell can Kessler justify a non-profit collective paying an athlete to promote or endorse goods and services provided to the general for profit? That was the rationale for the rejection of deals submitted by collectives. Collectives can certainly match up for profit businesses with athletes as Blum is going to do but having a non-profit Collectives directly pay athletes to endorse for profit goods/services is senseless.

I’m not sure how they can legally say that a collective can’t give athletes money in exchange for services. I get it that most of what is happening is thinly disguised pay-for-play but I think they are going to find that it’s pretty hard to restrict.

What I had been expecting was that they were going to try to establish a fair market value for these services and disallow deals about that FMV. But if I understand this all correctly, they are trying to go beyond that and just get all of the collectives to shut down for everything other than corporate deals.