SEC/Big10 Pushing for 16 Team Playoff

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This is a fantastic point. LOL what a weird hill for them die on.
It just guarantees that at no point in the future will they be upended by any other conference
 

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Just let them go play in the sand by themseleves, its going to happen. And the lower tier teams of both conferences will eventually get booted. This drama is getting old. F em if they want to party alone.
 

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To me the auto bids is less of a problem then evening out the rules so every team plays a set number of other P4 schools. You have SEC teams playing only 8 to 9 P4 schools and feasting on cream puffs to get wins and therefore a higher ranking. Sorry but when you have a system that encourages and allows Alabama to have less P4 opponents than ISU, during the regular season, it's a problem.
 

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Why? The NFL has 44% percent of the league in the playoffs even with this proposal counting only P4 schools only 23% get into the playoffs. Wouldn't this make regular season matter more because you can survive one bad loss or maybe 2 good losses and still make it in?
NFL has parity, CFB does not and never has. Most of the games these days involving teams who are competing to win a natty are over once they step on the field.

With this many auto byes it doesn’t matter if OSU drops a random game to Purdue, they will still get in and be favorites in most games. It’s just undercuts the value of the regular season to a tremendous degree
 

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Big 12 and SEC demanding 20 to 30 of the 68 NCAA tournament bids would be no different than this. That's being very favorable to the SEC that last year's performance is going to stick.

Let's be honest for a time the Big 12 should have been getting 9/10 or 8/10 of its teams in the dance every year and usually got 1-2 less than deserved.
 
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NFL has parity, CFB does not and never has. Most of the games these days involving teams who are competing to win a natty are over once they step on the field.

With this many auto byes it doesn’t matter if OSU drops a random game to Purdue, they will still get in and be favorites in most games. It’s just undercuts the value of the regular season to a tremendous degree
I guess I just don't agree that the problem is too many teams in the playoff. People don't care about the NBA regular season as much because there are too many games and star players take breaks during the season.

IMO if FBS wasn't beholden to some bad traditions it would be way smarter to just use the FCS playoff format of 24 teams.
 
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Every time these new proposed changes come out, I always wonder what the university presidents of schools like Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Arkansas think about it. I just don't really see what's in it for them and their universities. I guess the answer is money, but ADs are pretty separate in their finances and not much money flows to their salary or the rest of the school.

From a university marketing standpoint, it feels like no hope of a conference title and a ceiling that's probably at most a first round playoff exit would start to eat away the fan support and school pride when the regular season is so cheapened.
 

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Every time these new proposed changes come out, I always wonder what the university presidents of schools like Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Arkansas think about it. I just don't really see what's in it for them and their universities. I guess the answer is money, but ADs are pretty separate in their finances and not much money flows to their salary or the rest of the school.

From a university marketing standpoint, it feels like no hope of a conference title and a ceiling that's probably at most a first round playoff exit would start to eat away the fan support and school pride when the regular season is so cheapened.
Illinois is a top 10 to top 15 team this year (don’t agree with it but it is what it is), Indiana just had the best season in school history (super easy schedule but they are still happy). Nebraska and Wisconsin we already know about but you said it yourself( it’s a massive marketing opportunity for the schools and a pretty big driver of campus life and alumni traditions.
 

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Every time these new proposed changes come out, I always wonder what the university presidents of schools like Minnesota, Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Arkansas think about it. I just don't really see what's in it for them and their universities. I guess the answer is money, but ADs are pretty separate in their finances and not much money flows to their salary or the rest of the school.

From a university marketing standpoint, it feels like no hope of a conference title and a ceiling that's probably at most a first round playoff exit would start to eat away the fan support and school pride when the regular season is so cheapened.
They look at what Indiana did last year and work to be that.

Field a decent to good team, get a favorable schedule, finish in the top 4-6 and play in or for a playoff spot while getting richer by the year.

They aren’t historically good so they don’t have a fanbase that is unrealistic (outside of Nebraska). What’s not to like about that?
 
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We could see a scenario where the SEC or the B1G could get upwards of 7 teams in the newly proposed 16 team playoff- if it can happen then it will happen at some point.
 

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ESPN and Fox are the ones that want the auto bids for those conferences. Auto bids allows the conference to maximize the regular season schedule pitting the best teams against each other. When Alabama goes 8-4 against a gauntlet they don't have to worry about being left out, they'll still be top 4 in the conference.
 
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needing more than even 2 auto bid is childish

Do they actually think a 16 team playoff would ever have less than 3-4 of their teams without auto bids?
It's not about their top 4 teams, its about getting teams 5-8 in the Playoff

This way when Ole Miss is 8-4, but they "lost to 4 playoff teams", the SEC can make a case to get them in the playoff
 

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7 teams!?! If you look at this proposal it’s a guaranteed 8 teams, and most years will be closer to 10. Just a joke

With a 16 team playoff you should have a fair amount of "fresh faces" every year but the SEC/B1G is setting that up to not happen. Honestly, What's even the point? At least in the NFL you have a salary cap to help level the playing field.
 
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To me the auto bids is less of a problem then evening out the rules so every team plays a set number of other P4 schools. You have SEC teams playing only 8 to 9 P4 schools and feasting on cream puffs to get wins and therefore a higher ranking. Sorry but when you have a system that encourages and allows Alabama to have less P4 opponents than ISU, during the regular season, it's a problem.
I'll be shocked if, whenever they land on a final CFP format, the SEC doesn't move to 9 conference games. Especially since ESPN is willing to pay them more $$$ to add a 9th game. I don't see the B1G agreeing to anything without everyone playing the same number of conference games.
 

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