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I think paniro will be worse at 157 if that’s what this all means but I guess we get to find out now. Sucks
Maybe he can get his conditioning figured out if he's not cutting
 
I think
133- Evan
141- Jacob
149 - Ech
157- Paniro
Sure, if they can all hold weight. We also have several others who are probably hopeful of getting in the lineup in that group (Diversent, Grice, Meza, Acklin, Naak).
 
I am don't think this is nearly as bad as it looks on the surface, but of course depends on who comes in.

Kysen - wasn't going to be the starter and super up and down performances, off the mat issues too
Redding - good kid, wasnt going to be in the lineup and glad he's going to go get a shot somewhere
Swiderski - emotional rollercoaster, reportedly a handfull off the mat and I'm not convinced he makes the lineup next year over Frost/AE
Chittum - wildly up and down performances, has felt disengaged at times, helicopter dad
Carroll - lots more going on there than we know
Stanek/Schmidt/Carlucci - room guys who can go down a level and compete

So either guys who are going to find their opportunity elsewhere, or highly talented guys who can't seem to get it put together for whatever reason (off the mat reasons, injury, consistency, etc.)

We have a roster jam and culturally, the guys who are staying are the workers, the right attitude, etc. Hate on Paniro's style all you want, but that's a great kid and a worker, I'd take 10 Frosts if we could have them, AE has turned his entire career around in Ames, Euton is a grinder, etc.

We've got to make some good adds, but seems like a culture reset of sorts.
 
I am don't think this is nearly as bad as it looks on the surface, but of course depends on who comes in.

Kysen - wasn't going to be the starter and super up and down performances, off the mat issues too
Redding - good kid, wasnt going to be in the lineup and glad he's going to go get a shot somewhere
Swiderski - emotional rollercoaster, reportedly a handfull off the mat and I'm not convinced he makes the lineup next year over Frost/AE
Chittum - wildly up and down performances, has felt disengaged at times, helicopter dad
Carroll - lots more going on there than we know
Stanek/Schmidt/Carlucci - room guys who can go down a level and compete

So either guys who are going to find their opportunity elsewhere, or highly talented guys who can't seem to get it put together for whatever reason (off the mat reasons, injury, consistency, etc.)

We have a roster jam and culturally, the guys who are staying are the workers, the right attitude, etc. Hate on Paniro's style all you want, but that's a great kid and a worker, I'd take 10 Frosts if we could have them, AE has turned his entire career around in Ames, Euton is a grinder, etc.

We've got to make some good adds, but seems like a culture reset of sorts.
Best post I've seen on here. Well stated.
 
I am don't think this is nearly as bad as it looks on the surface, but of course depends on who comes in.

Kysen - wasn't going to be the starter and super up and down performances, off the mat issues too
Redding - good kid, wasnt going to be in the lineup and glad he's going to go get a shot somewhere
Swiderski - emotional rollercoaster, reportedly a handfull off the mat and I'm not convinced he makes the lineup next year over Frost/AE
Chittum - wildly up and down performances, has felt disengaged at times, helicopter dad
Carroll - lots more going on there than we know
Stanek/Schmidt/Carlucci - room guys who can go down a level and compete

So either guys who are going to find their opportunity elsewhere, or highly talented guys who can't seem to get it put together for whatever reason (off the mat reasons, injury, consistency, etc.)

We have a roster jam and culturally, the guys who are staying are the workers, the right attitude, etc. Hate on Paniro's style all you want, but that's a great kid and a worker, I'd take 10 Frosts if we could have them, AE has turned his entire career around in Ames, Euton is a grinder, etc.

We've got to make some good adds, but seems like a culture reset of sorts.
I think it shows the big names don't always come with big results. Also, the Frosts, and Paniro: I'm not sure anyone saw them as being champion-level wrestlers, but they are.
 
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