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Die4Cy

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Where is this price list on players you're referring to? I would like to look that over. Is there a discount page too?
Discounts are never published. But everybody knows you shouldn't pay retail.:)
 

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I agree he'd be a good player - just don't think we need to add that mold of player to next year's roster.

If we need to replace scoring in a hurry, we need to look at it as find a better option for Gilbert, not Nojus. I don't think Rohde would come here to be the 7th or 8th guy. Like I said, him and Heise just seem too similar to make sense on next year's squad. Any other year, grab him.

He is a replacement for Gilbert. He’s been playing pg. He creates better and shoots better this year. He doesn’t get to the rim as well, but that’s offset by the better passing.

Imo you’re thinking of what Gilbert could have been, not what he was for most of this year. Check out his comparison to KG in things like BartTorvik


He can play 1 through 3. We won’t find better return on our money because of that. Definitely don’t want to go into the season depending on a freshman to be the only other pg capable guard besides lipsey
 
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isucy86

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Yeah, he went from looking like a nice role player to a solid starting guard candidate for next year.
Or maybe Heise fills the CuJo role as a high minutes 6th man.

Feel like the staff needs to figure out how serious we are about being an elite defensive program in the Houston mold or are we OK with being just average like this year. IMO that dictates how we proceed in the portal and maybe more importantly how we spend on returning players.

The tough thing about having an elite defense, maybe 1 weak link can be compensated for. But tough to have a split roster of plus defenders and minus defenders.
 
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I'm torn on Jackson. He's not as bad as some of you are making him out to be. He was definitely an upgrade on offense and it was nice to see our bigs be able to make free throws for once.

I think we sacrificed alot of D for Offense this year with him and Jefferson though. . I don't know which method is better but might be time to go back to getting some BRE type enforcers in the front court and letting the guard score all the points again.
 

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Or maybe Heise fills the CuJo role as a high minutes 6th man.

Feel like the staff needs to figure out how seriously we are about being an elite defensive program in the Houston mold or are we OK with being just average like this year. IMO that dictates how we proceed in the portal and maybe more importantly how we spend on returning players.

The tough thing about having an elite defense, maybe 1 weak link can be compensated for. But tough to have a split roster of plus defenders and minus defenders.
What do you consider elite? Currently 9th on Torvik and 10th on KenPom. Ole Miss was the worst defensive performance of the season.
 

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I agree he'd be a good player - just don't think we need to add that mold of player to next year's roster.

If we need to replace scoring in a hurry, we need to look at it as find a better option for Gilbert, not Nojus. I don't think Rohde would come here to be the 7th or 8th guy. Like I said, him and Heise just seem too similar to make sense on next year's squad. Any other year, grab him.
Seems like he does way more ball handling and has great assist #s. Heise is more of a spot up shooter and slasher vs Rohde is a spot up shooter and distributor. Idk can never have enough good 3 point shooters.
 

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IMO. If Rohde is an addition, he would start and Heise moves to 6 man. Which would be great
Heise is not a starter regardless if next year's team is going to take a step forward. Need a SG/Wing that's a major scoring threat. Without that addition, I'm not sure the ceiling improves much from this season. So, in this scenario I'm seeing Rohde as the 6th man. Heise as the 7th,8th? Again, they seem very similar.
 

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isucy86

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What do you consider elite? Currently 9th on Torvik and 10th on KenPom. Ole Miss was the worst defensive performance of the season.

The eye test is a great place to start. Those metrics leave a lot to be desired if they had us 9th or 10th. My guess those metrics were based on the whole season. What would they have ranked ISU over the last 2 months?

Ole Miss was our worst performance of the season. But go back and look at most of our other losses and the defense wasn't elite. And in fact, not average in those losses. A lot of the elite defense mantra for this season was based on TJ's first 3 seasons.

The first half of the season our trapping defense's success in forcing turnovers and creating points hid a lot. But the reality is we struggled in staying in front of opposing players driving.
 

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Not exactly sure.
The eye test is a great place to start. Those metrics leave a lot to be desired if they had us 9th or 10th. My guess those metrics were based on the whole season. What would they have ranked ISU over the last 2 months?

Ole Miss was our worst performance of the season. But go back and look at most of our other losses and the defense wasn't elite. And in fact, not average in those losses. A lot of the elite defense mantra for this season was based on TJ's first 3 seasons.

The first half of the season our trapping defense's success in forcing turnovers and creating points hid a lot. But the reality is we struggled in staying in front of opposing players driving.
Those first few seasons, we would run the clock down to 15 seconds or so before we really tried much offense. I think that may be what is gassing us out some now. We are still trying to play tight D but not getting that little rest for 10 seconds on offense. We shortened up games the first couple years.
 

isucy86

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Those first few seasons, we would run the clock down to 15 seconds or so before we really tried much offense. I think that may be what is gassing us out some now. We are still trying to play tight D but not getting that little rest for 10 seconds on offense. We shortened up games the first couple years.

I felt we were pretty slow paced this year in the latter part of the season. Tamin was pretty deliberate getting the ball past mid-court. The norm seemed around 21/22 seconds left on the shot clock.
 

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Oscar Cluff is meeting with coaches in Ames today
I feel like Alison Lacey as 1st lady of the basketball team we would have good rapport with Australians looking to move to the states. I'm sure TJ knows enough now about the region to do good recruiting there.
 
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BCClone

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Not exactly sure.
I felt we were pretty slow paced this year in the latter part of the season. Tamin was pretty deliberate getting the ball past mid-court. The norm seemed around 21/22 seconds left on the shot clock.
That definitely seemed true with Gilbert out. Almost like they werent sure what they should do without him there.
 
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