I don’t see Ward or Sanders being so good that you have to take them in those positions. Take an olineman in the first and a QB later. Having a solid oline will make a rookie QB better than a guy like Sanders that has to pull the ball and run constantly because you can’t protect him. I think you’d have just about the same chances of success with a later rounder than those two in the first. And if you take a later rounder, that lineman will still be there and you can find a better prospect later. None of those teams are a one year turnaround.
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I don’t see Ward or Sanders being so good that you have to take them in those positions. Take an olineman in the first and a QB later. Having a solid oline will make a rookie QB better than a guy like Sanders that has to pull the ball and run constantly because you can’t protect him. I think you’d have just about the same chances of success with a later rounder than those two in the first. And if you take a later rounder, that lineman will still be there and you can find a better prospect later. None of those teams are a one year turnaround.
Man, I wouldn't take any of those guys top 5. Maybe even top 10, at quarterback. This QB draft class IMO is vey weak.
Sanders - talented, but gets rattled when pressured and I don't always love the attitude piece, but he's young, talented, so he'd be the one if I had to take one.
Ward - maybe more consistent, a bit bigger, etc, but the turnover issues are a big concern.
If I were an NFL GM, I don't know if I'd want to hitch my wagon to these QB's. Now, there's some pretty special talent elsewhere in the draft and maybe, just maybe those QB's hit and develop and work out... but I'd rather grab a OL / Edge guy, get a few extra picks, and take a day 2 QB.
Milroe would probably be the one I'd take even though he might not be as polished but man, the upside is probably highest.
Jennings from SMU while undersized with his arm talent and scramble ability I like.
If I could give him a good team, Kyle McCord can really throw it as a more typical pocket passer.
Will Howard is a weird one. Like, he's not exceptional, but he's also not bad. He's another one if you on a good team, and a Day 2, Day 3 pick... might sneakily develop down the road
Sanders - talented, but gets rattled when pressured and I don't always love the attitude piece, but he's young, talented, so he'd be the one if I had to take one.
Ward - maybe more consistent, a bit bigger, etc, but the turnover issues are a big concern.
If I were an NFL GM, I don't know if I'd want to hitch my wagon to these QB's. Now, there's some pretty special talent elsewhere in the draft and maybe, just maybe those QB's hit and develop and work out... but I'd rather grab a OL / Edge guy, get a few extra picks, and take a day 2 QB.
Milroe would probably be the one I'd take even though he might not be as polished but man, the upside is probably highest.
Jennings from SMU while undersized with his arm talent and scramble ability I like.
If I could give him a good team, Kyle McCord can really throw it as a more typical pocket passer.
Will Howard is a weird one. Like, he's not exceptional, but he's also not bad. He's another one if you on a good team, and a Day 2, Day 3 pick... might sneakily develop down the road
Even if you have hesitations on Sanders or Ward, if you’re the Titans, Giants, or Raiders I think you have to draft a QB if you can just to deliver some hope to your fan base. Sanders has talent and pedigree and would deliver excitement. But he takes a lot of sacks and will bring an off-the-field circus with him. I actually think award could be a really good NFL QB.
The Browns sound like they’re going to roll with Watson (or at least that’s what they’re saying). So they could trade back for a lot more assets given how many QB-needy teams there are.
Watson will be on the Browns regardless because they can't cut him and still field a roster. Whether or not they want him to still be the starting qb or not is the question.
If I were any other team needing a QB, Saints, Colts, I wouldn’t touch Millroe, Beck, or Dart in the first round. I’d try to sign Darnold , or if he re-signs with Minnesota, try to trade for McCarthy (even though I am really low on him) I’d rather have him than take a first-round flyer on those other 3 QBs.
If he’s on the roster I think you have to play him, annd hope he’s better. Otherwise, he’s a huge locker room, media distraction.
that depends on what the locker room thinks of him and frankly he starts acting like a fool you get to suspend him without pay for a few games and recoup some money.
He's been the worst quarterback in the league for two years now, I can't imagine his teammates are going to be too upset if they bring in someone to compete with him whether it's a rookie or a vet.
It's not a terrible strategy to just keep drafting players around him so that when his contract finally gets to a place where it's manageable to move on the rest of the roster is in good shape. The problem is if you draft a receiver or lineman in the first round they may not develop properly with him at qb.
I think my strategy would be to draft a qb in round 3-4 with some upside.
Yeah I think they have 2 options.
1.) which is what I would do, bring Watson back and trade back (preferably to the Giants or Raiders) to accumulate more draft capital while still filling some holes with high draft picks
2.) Do what my Broncos did with Wilson and cut bait, eat a huge cap hit, and draft a QB at 2. I’d be concerned here because Stefanski isn’t Sean Payton.
1. Stefanski is a good coach. Great? IDK, he's good though.
2. If I'm the Giants and Raiders... I want to trade back, not up. Seriously. Maybe I'll be proven wrong but this is one of the very most "meh" top 10s in NFL draft history I can remember. None of the QB's are that impressive to the next level. The other guys are OK... but whose the stud daddy out there you don't wanna miss on in the top 10?
Hunter? I mean... I just don't see one this year. Some good guys but not many or any "OMG, we have to get that guy" to me.
So I don't want to mortgage my future for what seems like a "meh" draft pick. Will someone do it? Of course, that's the league.
2. If I'm the Giants and Raiders... I want to trade back, not up. Seriously. Maybe I'll be proven wrong but this is one of the very most "meh" top 10s in NFL draft history I can remember. None of the QB's are that impressive to the next level. The other guys are OK... but whose the stud daddy out there you don't wanna miss on in the top 10?
Hunter? I mean... I just don't see one this year. Some good guys but not many or any "OMG, we have to get that guy" to me.
So I don't want to mortgage my future for what seems like a "meh" draft pick. Will someone do it? Of course, that's the league.
I would absolutely not take a QB in the first 20 picks in this draft. Teams will, but they shouldn't. Guys like Shough, McCord, and Rourke could end up being just as good or better than any of the top QBs and you can likely get them in rounds 4-6.
I think Skattebo makes sense in the 4 or 5th round. He will never work as a traditional RB. But I could see him developing into a Juszczyk or Ricard type role as an H back. NFL teams love versatility and if he shows he can catch he could check alot of boxes. I'd imagine he could make for a good special teams player too.
I'd stay away from Rourke, just because multiple knee injuries.
I like McCord. Not super athletic but honestly, he's who'd Id take if I'm the Giants GM.
If I'm the Giants this would be my plan:
Trade back to around 8-12 or so.
Banks, Milum or Campbell at Offensive tackle is pick #1.
Depending on what else I get, go DL. Probably not high enough to get Graham or Carter, etc. but if they were there, boom.
Then, I might "reach" but I get a Ratledge or Fairchild from Georgia at OG. Maybe Booker from Bama in round 2.
Then after shoring up the trenches - I draft McCord in Round 3. Strong armed kid, tons of arm talent, but needs supporting cast.
Rounds 4-5 I go maybe RB/LB/Secondary depending on need and free agency and then maybe get a TE/WR in rounds 5-7. Or something.
Basically somewhat similar to what the Lions did. Sewell + Hutchinson the first two years plus Gibbs
Playing GM for Las Vegas and NYG, no way can you go into next year without a solid QB plan next year and the future. You cannot sell those fan bases, and more importantly the owners, on another year of Aidan O’Connell/Gardner Minshew and Tommy DeVito/Drew Lock. That would be going on the 3rd year in a row with no QB plan. I think they have to pick QBs if able, meaning moving up.
Browns have more leeway to trade back given the Watson situation.
I think people are underselling Sanders and Ward. Those are good QBs. As good of prospects as McCarthy, Penix, and Lock. And those 3 franchises have positive outlooks at the QB position right now.
I wouldn’t reach. If a good offensive lineman is available, go there to help build for the future. Otherwise develop your defense if you have holes and find a game managing QB out there.
To be fair to Sanders, he has been pressured and sacked a crazy number of times. He's kind of hard to evaluate for that reason.
Milroe feels like an Anthony Richardson type to me. Way too inaccurate given his experience, offensive system, and talent advantage he typically enjoys with his offense every week except maybe vs. LSU, Tenn and Georgia. It's one thing if he hadn't played a ton of games. But at some point you are what you are as a passer. I see Milroe as a guy who simply isn't accurate enough to start and win in the NFL.
Also, picking a QB in the 3rd or 4th round to be your starter year one (or even future years) is not a reliable strategy. The only franchise I can recall where that worked was Seattle with Wilson. And they stumbled into that after signing Flynn in the offseason.
Other later round picks who became starters had to earn their way to that spot and usually after a few years as backups. Certainly they weren’t expected to be franchise QBs after being drafted.
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His OL isn't great but he also holds onto the ball longer than most QBs causing his own sacks instead of throwing the ball away or taking a check down.
100%. I don't see what Milroe brings to the table. He's a highly inaccurate QB that is mobile. I can't imagine spending a first round pick on him. Justin Fields comparison, but I think Fields is a more accurate passer... that hasn't led to much for him.
I'm a pretty firm believer that sacks are a quarterback stat. Obviously, that's not completely true, both the offensive line and OC have roles to play as well.
While it's certainly true that bad o-lines will lead to more pressure, the quarterback often (but not always) determines whether those pressures turn into sacks.
I thought he's a serial ball holder every time I've watched him, and also that he picks out tons of big stats and big plays by holding and running for so long that broken coverages show up. That **** don't fly in the NFL nearly as often as it does in college.
