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CMC got outcoached by a 2nd year head coach at a school with limited success in football.
I don't think he got out coached. We got outplayed.

You can disagree with the scheme. You can wish CMC was more aggressive, etc, that we had 4 down linemen on defense, etc. That can be fair. But here's the truth.

Their RB was the best player on the field.
They MIGHT have had the best WR on the field , at least in terms of how he played. He was comparable anyways.

And they probably had the best quarterback on the field.



There isn't a lot of in game "coaching" that goes into that. Its one thing to say move the pocket, do a screen or a draw, etc.

But there is not coaching involved when their best players are better than your best players.
And on that note, That staff at Arizona State? Their OC/DC combo? Pretty damn good.
 
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CMC got outcoached by a 2nd year head coach at a school with limited success in football.
Lincoln Riley got outcoached by CMC in his 2nd year at a school with ZERO success in football. Spoiler alert he didn’t get fired. This thing happens, years of experience at a school doesn’t equal strength of the team. Go outside and hug your loved ones
 

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cant get out coached when your team just plain and simple gets their asses kicked.

don't think there was anything in-game that could have been done by the coaches to change that outcome.
Agreed. I mean, I guess you can always "try" stuff but that opens its own can of worms as a coach.


1) If you bail too early on the plan and adjust, it can be seen as "panicking" by the team, and that's not great.
2) If you haven't worked on it too much, even if you manage to have a little success, again, its probably not sustainable and a little bit like plugging a leaking boat with your foot. Sure, maybe pressure and run blitzes slow the run down, but then inf you get beat by a 75 yard TD on an RPO (Or have the safeties scream up on 4th and 1 and get beat deep, etc) another hole can open.

The list can go on and out.

Football / sports is a lot like a soccer manager or baseball manager. Once the game starts, sure, there are tweaks and adjustments so its a little more hands on - but not really.

75% of coaching happens leading into the game
15% of the remaining is just trying to hold the team together, focused and united through the game and managing injuries, momentum swings, etc.

5% is stuff like clock management

The rest is adjustments
 

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lol that fast 4 star QB Iowa signed this year just entered the transfer portal

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they moved him to receiver. Their qb recruiting has really sucked (coincidentally, I'm sure) since Brian Ferentz became qb coach.

Lester couldn't possibly be worse but that bar is so low that it's on the ground. It would be nice to have a league average qb for a change.
 
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I donate to the We Will, each year actually.

For the teams in the playoff, find me any linebacker starters that are on the same level as Sadowsky, Rylan Barnes, McClaughlin. You won't.

I'm not saying all starters have to lose their jobs. But when we were 109th in the country this year in sacks, lacked great tackling against the run, got exposed in big games this year with front 6 of the D, yes I want a couple players on defense in the portal at LB and DE. Forgive me for wanting the program to continue to get better.
We’re supposed to have backups that are cfp caliber at LB?
 
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I don't think he got out coached. We got outplayed.

You can disagree with the scheme. You can wish CMC was more aggressive, etc, that we had 4 down linemen on defense, etc. That can be fair. But here's the truth.

Their RB was the best player on the field.
They MIGHT have had the best WR on the field , at least in terms of how he played. He was comparable anyways.

And they probably had the best quarterback on the field.



There isn't a lot of in game "coaching" that goes into that. Its one thing to say move the pocket, do a screen or a draw, etc.

But there is not coaching involved when their best players are better than your best players.
And on that note, That staff at Arizona? Their OC/DC combo? Pretty damn good.
When you get your a** kicked like we did... it's a combination of a LOT of things.

But... I feel like the game really took a turn for the worst at the end of the 1st half due to our horrible coaching. At a minimum we should have been going into the half down 7, and getting the ball first after halftime. But instead, due 100% to ineptitude by our coaching staff, we go in down 14. That was a big turning point.

Then of course, we come out in the 2nd half and turn the ball over 3 times... which is entirely on the players... and that ended any chance of any comeback at all and it snowballed from there.
 

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Lincoln Riley got outcoached by CMC in his 2nd year at a school with ZERO success in football. Spoiler alert he didn’t get fired. This thing happens, years of experience at a school doesn’t equal strength of the team. Go outside and hug your loved ones
Hugging his loved one better be done inside!;);)
 
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I don't think he got out coached. We got outplayed.

You can disagree with the scheme. You can wish CMC was more aggressive, etc, that we had 4 down linemen on defense, etc. That can be fair. But here's the truth.

Their RB was the best player on the field.
They MIGHT have had the best WR on the field , at least in terms of how he played. He was comparable anyways.

And they probably had the best quarterback on the field.



There isn't a lot of in game "coaching" that goes into that. Its one thing to say move the pocket, do a screen or a draw, etc.

But there is not coaching involved when their best players are better than your best players.
And on that note, That staff at Arizona? Their OC/DC combo? Pretty damn good.
I think it was Saban that said that our players were getting to the right places and just not making the play. That's not on the staff so much as it is on the players (and part of the problem with the players was that often they were from our decimated linebacker group).
 

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I think it was Saban that said that our players were getting to the right places and just not making the play. That's not on the staff so much as it is on the players (and part of the problem with the players was that often they were from our decimated linebacker group).
There were individual decisions I disagreed with. But that loss (and quite frankly none of our losses this year) was for the most part not on coaching.

Our guys were bouncing off Skattebo like pinballs. Not really sure how a coach is supposed to fix that in-game.
 

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I think it was Saban that said that our players were getting to the right places and just not making the play. That's not on the staff so much as it is on the players (and part of the problem with the players was that often they were from our decimated linebacker group).
That and frankly, it was a bad matchup. Just like it was for almost everyone else in the league. They lost to Cincinnati - Leavitt didn't play. I don't think they lose to Cincy if he plays. Otherwise they lost at Tech where they fell down 14-0 and lost by 8.

Even we get our starting LB's... I don't like the matchup.

Colorado? I like
BYU? I like.

Arizona State, with their ability to run physically with a mobile QB whose accurate deep down field - plus if we get guys back I imagine they'd argue they'd have Tyson - so even at full strength, IDK.


It'd be closer, 100%. And not as much pin-balling through the 2nd and 3rd levels. But I still don't know if I like the matchup.
 
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That and frankly, it was a bad matchup. Just like it was for almost everyone else in the league. They lost to Cincinnati - Leavitt didn't play. I don't think they lose to Cincy if he plays. Otherwise they lost at Tech where they feel down 14-0 and lost by 8.

If with our starting LB's... I don't like the matchup.

Colorado? I like
BYU? I like.

Arizona State, with their ability to run physically with a mobile QB whose accurate deep down field - plus if we get guys back I imagine they'd argue they'd have Tyson - so even at full strength, IDK.


It'd be closer, 100%. And not as much pin-balling through the 2nd and 3rd levels. But I still don't know if I like the matchup.
Yeah, Scatebo made me extremely nervous with the way we've defended the run this year, so as much as I tried to talk myself out of it, in the back of my mind, I knew it wasn't a great matchup for us.
 
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Not sure why anyone thought Kohl was ever going to play here... his HS highlights weren't even that impressive IMO. He was only highly ranked due to his size.
This is one of the stupidest things ever posted on this site.

EVER.

Not this week, not this month, not this year. EVER.

The hatred for a Cyclone and buck stupid ignorance is astonishing.

And if you agreed, you should be embarassed.