Mike Tyson to fight Jake Paul

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Yeah that was an entertaining fight but I also knew Floyd was not going 100 percent and trying to wear him down. Hope Tyson destroys him, however, I think Paul beats him. Just based on watching Hollyfield did against Vitor Belfort. He just looked so old. Mike does look like he held together more than holyfield though
Yes I do agree with you Mayweather mostly executed his plan but was suprised by connor landing a couple shots that were relatively good shots. I've seen Mayweather not get touched a lot. Was retired at time too though. McGregor as a boxer looked more athletic and quicker than I expected but low boxing iq and skill.

I agree with you on tonight.
 
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I loved Tyson back in the day. I would be pretty shocked if he won. But it's kind of like a drug. You just one more strong hit... just one more time...
 

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Yes I do agree with you Mayweather mostly executed his plan but was suprised by connor landing a couple shots that were relatively good shots. I've seen Mayweather not get touched a lot. Was retired at time too though. McGregor as a boxer looked more athletic and quicker than I expected but low boxing iq and skill.

I agree with you on tonight.
Have you ever tried holding both your hands up around your head for 12 straight three-minute rounds? It's probably the most simple and fundamental aspect of boxing, and it's much more physically taxing than most people think. MMA guys don't have to do it in their fights, and it's just one reason they'll almost always lose in boxing matches. CM was absolutely gassed in that fight.

I'm no Mayweather fan, but he's probably the best defensive fighter since Bernard Hopkins IMO.
 

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I loved Tyson back in the day. I would be pretty shocked if he won. But it's kind of like a drug. You just one more strong hit... just one more time...
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This fight is about as *real as a three dollar bill.

*according to that album that I scratched from playing so much back when I was an even bigger moron.
 
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Have you ever tried holding both your hands up around your head for 12 straight three-minute rounds? It's probably the most simple and fundamental aspect of boxing, and it's much more physically taxing than most people think. MMA guys don't have to do it in their fights, and it's just one reason they'll almost always lose in boxing matches. CM was absolutely gassed in that fight.

I'm no Mayweather fan, but he's probably the best defensive fighter since Bernard Hopkins IMO.
The bolded is fact and also why they were very hard matches for me to watch. Defensive posture with jabs here and there but nothing exciting.
 

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I grew up in the 80's in peak Mike Tyson time -- his heyday. Had Mike Tyson's Punch Out, etc. Now, my parents were too cheap to pay for Showtime or HBO, so I rarely got to watch his fights, but the mystique was certainly there (highlights, replays, etc). Later, as an adult, I have watched replays of every one of his professional fights. Some multiple times. He was unstoppable before he went to jail.

So yes, I want to see him knock this Paul guy out in round 1 so badly! But I don't think it will happen. We're talking a 30 year age difference, roughly. Tyson is pushing 60. Yes, George Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer when he was past his prime ... at 45! Not 58.

So I'd put the odds of "here's what happens" like so:

  • 70% chance they dance around each other the whole time and nothing/very little exciting happens.
  • 20% chance there are some moments of excitement (maybe a knockdown even) but no KO
  • 10% chance one of them wins by KO or TKO.

And man ... how badly I want it to be that 10%! (And Tyson being the one doing the knock out, of course!).

Early on, it was stated that there would be no win by decision. Just a draw if they both go the distance. Is that still the case?
 

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Yeah, I think he knows that his legacy is at stake here. Sure, no one expects him to win, but I think he'll take it personally, and he gets the money either way.


I don't think Tyson's legacy is at stake at all. He's 58 years old boxing a kid. If anything the one with the most to lose is Jake paul. If he get's beat by a 58 year old grandpa, he will never sell another fight. Mike can only improve on his legacy in my opinion. IF he knocks him out, Mike at 58 just knocked out a young boxer, if he loses, Mike is 58, what did you expect from a 58 year old.
 

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Have you ever tried holding both your hands up around your head for 12 straight three-minute rounds? It's probably the most simple and fundamental aspect of boxing, and it's much more physically taxing than most people think. MMA guys don't have to do it in their fights, and it's just one reason they'll almost always lose in boxing matches. CM was absolutely gassed in that fight.

I'm no Mayweather fan, but he's probably the best defensive fighter since Bernard Hopkins IMO.
Me? No I get tired coming up from basement to get snacks.

I agree he was taxed his lack of boxing iq led into that as well as you explained. He was using so much energy to get behind him which wasn't allowed anyway. Connor was a good UFC fighter not the greatest but fitness was always a limitation in UFC too.
 

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Heavyweight division has been a snoozefest for decades. There's still some really good boxing happening in the middleweight divisions though.
You didn't like Fury and wilder trilogy? That's probably been most entertaining thing for me in boxing in a while
 
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I grew up in the 80's in peak Mike Tyson time -- his heyday. Had Mike Tyson's Punch Out, etc. Now, my parents were too cheap to pay for Showtime or HBO, so I rarely got to watch his fights, but the mystique was certainly there (highlights, replays, etc). Later, as an adult, I have watched replays of every one of his professional fights. Some multiple times. He was unstoppable before he went to jail.

So yes, I want to see him knock this Paul guy out in round 1 so badly! But I don't think it will happen. We're talking a 30 year age difference, roughly. Tyson is pushing 60. Yes, George Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer when he was past his prime ... at 45! Not 58.

So I'd put the odds of "here's what happens" like so:

  • 70% chance they dance around each other the whole time and nothing/very little exciting happens.
  • 20% chance there are some moments of excitement (maybe a knockdown even) but no KO
  • 10% chance one of them wins by KO or TKO.

And man ... how badly I want it to be that 10%! (And Tyson being the one doing the knock out, of course!).

Early on, it was stated that there would be no win by decision. Just a draw if they both go the distance. Is that still the case?
I was a huge Tyson fan growing up in the 80s. I'll always consider him a top-10 heavyweight of all time, maybe even borderline top 5. He was terrifying. People who say he cleaned up on a weak division at the time don't realize that the reason it was perceived as a "weak" division was because with Tyson around nobody else could make a name for themselves. In most other eras, Tyrell Biggs would've been considered an all-time great heavyweight. Tyson splattered him, and that was that.

All that being said, a big part of what made Tyson so great, in addition to his freakish power and exceptional speed and head movement, was his mystique. Those guys were all beat before they even got into the ring. They were fighting scared the entire time. When Buster Douglas KO'd Tyson, the mystique was gone. He was beatable. The blueprint was there... you don't run from Tyson, you bully him. Enter Holyfield.

And to this day, I don't think I've ever seen a more perfectly thrown KO punch than Tyson's v. Botha. around the 2:25 mark below...

 
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I don't think Tyson's legacy is at stake at all. He's 58 years old boxing a kid. If anything the one with the most to lose is Jake paul. If he get's beat by a 58 year old grandpa, he will never sell another fight. Mike can only improve on his legacy in my opinion. IF he knocks him out, Mike at 58 just knocked out a young boxer, if he loses, Mike is 58, what did you expect from a 58 year old.
Depends who you ask, I suppose. I'd be disappointed to see him go down, old man though he may be, to a social media influencer in front of millions of people who don't really understand how dominant he was.
 

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Have you ever tried holding both your hands up around your head for 12 straight three-minute rounds? It's probably the most simple and fundamental aspect of boxing, and it's much more physically taxing than most people think. MMA guys don't have to do it in their fights, and it's just one reason they'll almost always lose in boxing matches. CM was absolutely gassed in that fight.

I'm no Mayweather fan, but he's probably the best defensive fighter since Bernard Hopkins IMO.
Connor has always had conditioning issues. I will disagree that boxers have better conditioning in general though. They don't have to wrestle like an MMA fighter.
 

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I was a huge Tyson fan growing up in the 80s. I'll always consider him a top-10 heavyweight of all time, maybe even borderline top 5. He was terrifying. People who say he cleaned up on a weak division at the time don't realize that the reason it was perceived as a "weak" division was because with Tyson around nobody else could make a name for themselves. In most other eras, Tyrell Biggs would've been considered an all-time great heavyweight. Tyson splattered him, and that was that.

All that being said, a big part of what made Tyson so great, in addition to his freakish power and exceptional speed and head movement, was his mystique. Those guys were all beat before they even got into the ring. They were fighting scared the entire time. When Buster Douglas KO'd Tyson, the mystique was gone. He was beatable. The blueprint was there... you don't run from Tyson, you bully him. Enter Holyfield.

And to this day, I don't think I've ever seen a more perfectly thrown KO punch than Tyson's v. Botha. around the 2:25 mark below...


I wish Liston and Tyson were the same era. That would have been an epic fight. Tyson is crazy but Liston had an unimaginably hard life. He was a legit killer.