ISU Bowl Projection

[2speedy1]

I'd consider Orlando only as the opportunity to take kids to Disney. Would not want to pay much to attend the game.

As someone who did that a couple years ago, I dont recommend! All the Disney parks and other area theme parks were insanely overcrowded. Even though Disney claimed at the time to be limiting guest numbers.

They also have introduced way more idiotic things like everything having to be done through their app, and eliminating the fast pass. You have to put in a food order on the app now hours in advance, then show up in a window time to pick it up and still wait in line for 30+ mins to get your food. No paper maps or anything like that so everyone is walking around with their nose in their phones, and then the system crashes because it cant handle the volume.

We went to I believe 3 Disney parks, plus Lego Land and Sea world. All sucked. I believe we rode 2 rides among all the parks we went to, as every ride had at least a 1 hour wait line and many over 3 hours long line. No way my kids would stand in line for that long. At least they kind of enjoyed The Animal Kingdom because of the animals, but at some point just going to a zoo and seeing more with less crowd, and a fraction of the cost makes way more sense.

During the holidays is probably the worst time to go, and I would never go to any of them during that time again, if ever, unless they made some serious changes.

Best time is during the week during school, when most people dont go.

 

[CoachHines3]

this year bowl games feel irrelevant.

probably the new 12 team playoff. It should essentially be playoff or bust.

You can't even have the opportunity to go to a Fiesta Bowl or a Sugar bowl anymore without making the playoff.

We could potentially win 10 win games this year with a chance to, what? Go to an Alamo bowl? Wooo!

 

[2speedy1]

Athletic also has us in the Pop Tarts Bowl (Orlando) and have us playing Pitt.

Do people here still listen to this idiot? I rank him right up there with Altimore.

 

[Cyclonsin]

this year bowl games feel irrelevant.

probably the new 12 team playoff. It should essentially be playoff or bust.

You can't even have the opportunity to go to a Fiesta Bowl or a Sugar bowl anymore without making the playoff.

We could potentially win 10 win games this year with a chance to, what? Go to an Alamo bowl? Wooo!

I ******* hate the god damn playoff so much.

 

[CoachHines3]

I ******* hate the god damn playoff so much.

I do/dont for different reasons.

Im not going to complain about having more high profile matchups and more football. But if you're team doesn't make the playoff, what's it mean for your season overall? A 9 win season is great, but that's all it is. Going to a sh*t bowl game doesn't do anything.

My guess is we'll have a 16 team playoff in the next 2 years with 2 auto bids from the Big 12.

As an Iowa State fan, our access to the post season (playoff) has never been better/easier. I do like that aspect. But also, your season could be over 4 or 5 games in. Then what? Playing to just win 9 games?

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I ******* hate the god damn playoff so much.

This is the first year that a bowl has felt pretty much meaningless to me.

I’d like to see the playoff expanded personally. With only 12 teams, that’s less than 10% of FBS involvement in meaningful postseason. Even if you pair it down to P4, that’s only 17% of teams participating in meaningful postseason. Those %s would be significantly lower than any other league’s playoffs/tournament by far!

I’d honestly go to 24 if the money was there.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

This is the first year that a bowl has felt pretty much meaningless to me.

I’d like to see the playoff expanded personally. With only 12 teams, that’s less than 10% of FBS involvement in meaningful postseason. Even if you pair it down to P4, that’s only 17% of teams participating in meaningful postseason. Those %s would be significantly lower than any other league’s playoffs/tournament by far!

I’d honestly go to 24 if the money was there.

Yeah but the issue is unlike basketball most of those teams outside the top 12 and even some within have zero chance of actually winning. Just because the playoffs expanded doesn’t change the fact that each season only 4-5 teams are actually good enough to lift the trophy.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

It sucks, but does anyone really want to go to a bowl game as a fan? It seems like a waste of money. This is the first year I've really felt like bowl games truly mean nothing.

We made the trip to Memphis last year and yeah it definitely feels that way. Playing Memphis in Memphis probably had something to do with that too.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Yeah but the issue is unlike basketball most of those teams outside the top 12 and even some within have zero chance of actually winning. Just because the playoffs expanded doesn’t change the fact that each season only 4-5 teams are actually good enough to lift the trophy.

Well nothing is impossible. But, I’d say most years you have max 4 teams (and usually less) able to win a natty.

Even this year, I think you’re only legit options are Oregon, Ohio State, and Texas.

And half the basketball field doesn’t have a legitimate chance to win the tourney. But they still get to try.

 

[cyclones122]

this year bowl games feel irrelevant.

probably the new 12 team playoff. It should essentially be playoff or bust.

You can't even have the opportunity to go to a Fiesta Bowl or a Sugar bowl anymore without making the playoff.

We could potentially win 10 win games this year with a chance to, what? Go to an Alamo bowl? Wooo!

The last line is where I'm at. We could have (if we get it together the next 3 weeks) the greatest regular season in program history, our first 10 win regular season - and don't even get to play in a NY6 bowl. Probably the most Iowa State thing that could ever happen. Which means it probably will.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Well nothing is impossible. But, I’d say most years you have max 4 teams (and usually less) able to win a natty.

Even this year, I think you’re only legit options are Oregon, Ohio State, and Texas.

And half the basketball field doesn’t have a legitimate chance to win the tourney. But they still get to try.

We have seen double digit seeds make it to the championship game though in basketball, that’s why it is different. You can have a Mercer beating Duke or a 16 seed upsetting a 1 seed. In a football post season that just isn’t happening due to the staggering talent difference. Rutgers isn’t rising up and beating Texas.

But yeah totally agree with the legit options you posted.

 

[MugNight]

Would it be crazy to have an NIT style tournament for certain non CFP teams? Idk how you salvage the bowl game appeal for fans. It’ll be for bettors before long.

 

[Big_Sill]

I do/dont for different reasons.

Im not going to complain about having more high profile matchups and more football. But if you're team doesn't make the playoff, what's it mean for your season overall? A 9 win season is great, but that's all it is. Going to a sh*t bowl game doesn't do anything.

My guess is we'll have a 16 team playoff in the next 2 years with 2 auto bids from the Big 12.

As an Iowa State fan, our access to the post season (playoff) has never been better/easier. I do like that aspect. But also, your season could be over 4 or 5 games in. Then what? Playing to just win 9 games?

Agree on all points

Sit-outs will start creeping back into regular season until we get true pay for play.

 

[LAClone]

The narrative after last year’s embarrassing Liberty Bowl loss was that it’s fine because bowl games don’t matter. So, I guess that’s where we are.

 

[CoachHines3]

The narrative after last year’s embarrassing Liberty Bowl loss was that it’s fine because bowl games don’t matter. So, I guess that’s where we are.

Campbell essentially uses the bowl game as a precursor to the next season

 

[MeowingCows]

Would it be crazy to have an NIT style tournament for certain non CFP teams? Idk how you salvage the bowl game appeal for fans. It’ll be for bettors before long.

That's what I was thinking. Set up a second-tier tournament after the CFP teams. That at least gives more teams "something to play for" instead of one extra exhibition game.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

That's what I was thinking. Set up a second-tier tournament after the CFP teams. That at least gives more teams "something to play for" instead of one extra exhibition game.

Would that be any different from the bowls though? Plenty of teams decline NIT invites and players who want to avoid injury or protect their draft stock will still opt out. If it’s second tier most people won’t really care

 

[bluestarcyclone]

We have seen double digit seeds make it to the championship game though in basketball, that’s why it is different. You can have a Mercer beating Duke or a 16 seed upsetting a 1 seed. In a football post season that just isn’t happening due to the staggering talent difference. Rutgers isn’t rising up and beating Texas.

But yeah totally agree with the legit options you posted.

Pretty sure the lowest seed to make a championship game is an 8 seed. Some 11 seeds have made the final 4 though.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Pretty sure the lowest seed to make a championship game is an 8 seed. Some 11 seeds have made the final 4 though.

Ahhh you’re right, I thought Kentucky was a double digit when they made it awhile back

 

[MeowingCows]

Would that be any different from the bowls though? Plenty of teams decline NIT invites and players who want to avoid injury or protect their draft stock will still opt out. If it’s second tier most people won’t really care

It would pry be more meaningful for lower tier teams than ones just outside the CFP range. Fine by me if they decline, bring someone else in who wants to be there. Giving it a competitive ladder structure is still better than random bowl matchups with even less meaning now than they had in the old days. There will be teams who want in on it.