Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[ClubCy]

Holy ****. That’s a legit source. The SEC and Big 10 could still just wake up one morning and decide they want them but this would be very good for the Big 12.

IMO, this is what is best for the sport in general. Create a true P3..not a P2 and someone else. If the ACC crumbles and we get the scraps (Pitt, lville, ect) it would only be a matter of time before we are treated like a G5 (kind already are). This creates a little more balance although still weighted toward the SEC and Big 10. Which is fine by me.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Holy ****. That’s a legit source. The SEC and Big 10 could still just wake up one morning and decide they want them but this would be very good for the Big 12.

IMO, this is what is best for the sport in general. Create a true P3..not a P2 and someone else. If the ACC crumbles and we get the scraps (Pitt, lville, ect) it would only be a matter of time before we are treated like a G5 (kind already are). This creates a little more balance although still weighted toward the SEC and Big 10. Which is fine by me.

Yeah if you get those two those won’t be the only schools added for sure. They will just be the dominos.

 

[KnappShack]

Yeah if you get those two those won’t be the only schools added for sure. They will just be the dominos.

Michigan St to the Big 12.

Let's speak it into existence

 

[Kinch]

Both. Fans never really wanted Nebraska and add in the fact that they add nothing and most are just annoyed. Then they tried to flex during covid and got reminded how nothing they are now and it just annoyed more of the AD’s and presidents.

I see where their volleyball team outdraws the football team TV wise.

 

[CysRage]

Michigan St to the Big 12.

Let's speak it into existence

They along with Purdue are probably better fits (fans and culture wise) in the Big 12 anyways.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Michigan St to the Big 12.

Let's speak it into existence

As long as we keep the big 12 money I wouldn’t hate it, would have teams (not adopted like ISU) in two conferences then lol

Also could realistically make a playoff game every once in awhile

 

[CysRage]

Scheer was 2 steps ahead of everybody else for the Colorado round and 3 other "4 corner schools" round reporting despite being ridiculed by the Pac 12 arm..yet he was right about everything.

This could fall apart (especially if the Big Ten or SEC jump back in for those schools) but for him to say this means they are very far along on talks.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

They along with Purdue are probably better fits (fans and culture wise) in the Big 12 anyways.

I’d have Nebraska (duh) Iowa, Indiana and honestly Illinois before Sparty and Purdue. But honestly Purdue doesn’t really fit in anywhere

 

[Cydkar]

I’ll believe it when I see it.

 

[CysRage]

I’d have Nebraska (duh) Iowa, Indiana and honestly Illinois before Sparty and Purdue. But honestly Purdue doesn’t really fit in anywhere

Nebraska made their bed in 1996 by voting against revenue sharing in the newly formed Big 12, subsequently getting mad that Texas and OU called the shots since they made the most money, then leave for the Big Ten. They can rot in the Big Ten as a shell of its former self.

Iowa - You really don't know Iowa's fans or administration to suggest this do you? Their ego can fill a hot air balloon thinking they are some Big Ten elite when really they are mid. They wouldn't be caught dead in the Big 12.

Illinois- Maybe but their fans for the most part don't give a crap (except for Men's basketball when they are good).

 

[CyCrazy]

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Its not happeing so no worriers.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Nebraska made their bed in 1996 by voting against revenue sharing in the newly formed Big 12, subsequently getting mad that Texas and OU called the shots since they made the most money, then leave for the Big Ten. They can rot in the Big Ten as a shell of its former self.

Iowa - You really don't know Iowa's fans or administration to suggest this do you? Their ego can fill a hot air balloon thinking they are some Big Ten elite when really they are mid. They wouldn't be caught dead in the Big 12.

Illinois- Maybe but their fans for the most part don't give a crap (except for Men's basketball when they are good).

Don’t disagree with any of that but I think the sparty fans and maybe Purdue (honestly only know 2 Purdue alums) would also throw themselves in that Iowa “think they are elite tier”. I mean sparty basketball has been good (not since covid) but football has been a roller coaster so again not disagreeing at all but fan sentiment and AD probably would.

 

[ClubCy]

Nebraska made their bed in 1996 by voting against revenue sharing in the newly formed Big 12, subsequently getting mad that Texas and OU called the shots since they made the most money, then leave for the Big Ten. They can rot in the Big Ten as a shell of its former self.

Iowa - You really don't know Iowa's fans or administration to suggest this do you? Their ego can fill a hot air balloon thinking they are some Big Ten elite when really they are mid. They wouldn't be caught dead in the Big 12.

Illinois- Maybe but their fans for the most part don't give a crap (except for Men's basketball when they are good).

Isn’t Illinois becoming one of the better academic schools in the country? Or has been?

 

[Gonzo]

Isn’t Illinois becoming one of the better academic schools in the country? Or has been?

Illinois has been a very well respected public for some time now. Not in the Michigan stratosphere, but definitely a notch down with Wisco.

And they know it.

 

[CysRage]

Its not happeing so no worriers.

I gave it 0.1% chance 1 week ago. The Big Ten now reportedly said no to both schools and since the schools have sued the ACC I don't see very good outcomes if they stay in the ACC. If Big Ten and SEC said no, it leaves the Big 12 as the next viable option that is much financially better than the ACC.

It is possible (maybe even likely) both are just positioning for a better deal for a Big Ten or SEC move but I do think the likelihood significantly increased in the last several days.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Illinois has been a very well respected public for some time now. Not in the Michigan stratosphere, but definitely a notch down with Wisco.

And they know it.

Yeah I have Illinois and Wisconsin the same. Michigan is in a separate tier, it’s become the backup school when you can’t get into an Ivy now for many. I honestly don’t know if I could get into undergrad there anymore if I applied today with my old record from HS

 

[CysRage]

Don’t disagree with any of that but I think the sparty fans and maybe Purdue (honestly only know 2 Purdue alums) would also throw themselves in that Iowa “think they are elite tier”. I mean sparty basketball has been good (not since covid) but football has been a roller coaster so again not disagreeing at all but fan sentiment and AD probably would.

I work with a few Purdue alums and they are diehard basketball fans and seem very similar to Big 12 basketball fans (ISU, KU, KSU, WVU, Tech). I am basing my argument Purdue would be a good Big 12 fit assuming the rest of the fanbase is as energetic as my coworkers and their recent basketball success (much like the Big 12).

 

[isucy86]

Scheer was 2 steps ahead of everybody else for the Colorado round and 3 other "4 corner schools" round reporting despite being ridiculed by the Pac 12 arm..yet he was right about everything.

This could fall apart (especially if the Big Ten or SEC jump back in for those schools) but for him to say this means they are very far along on talks.

Would be curious if this is tied to Yormark's comments recently about the Big12 being in conversations with private equity partners. I have paid much attention other than headlines. But if the Big12 is active with private equity investors, could that look 2 different ways?

1. The Big12 negotiates directly with private equity firms and divides the money up to schools. Is that distribution equal or based on a school by school valuation by the private equity firms.
2. The Big12 allows member schools to negotiate their own private equity deals.

I would think it's the former based on this article. Just don't understand how private equity partners can negotiate bigger media deals. But interesting a potential private equity company feels college football media deals have tremendous upside based on NFL media deals.

edit added: The other thing I don't understand is how private equity can close the gap for Big12. I would think if private equity is willing to talk to Big12 schools, they would also be interested in speaking with Big10 & SEC conferences

 

[ISU_Guy]

IF this happens and the big ten and sec hold, then what does the acc do? Invite Oregon at and wazzau? Or just stay smaller and split the pot with less schools?

I feel like if this happens fsu and Clemson are just using us as a stop gap in case the P2 conversations start up later and that’s ok I guess.

I don’t want to go over 20 teams and this would get us to 18.
Miami, ncstate, VT, Pitt really are the only others that interest me but taking them all puts us at 22.
duke, virg or unc will be looking to stay or big10.

Kind of wild to think the big12 may be the last one standing out of the acc and p12

I know it was nessessary but I knowing this now I wish we could have waited in Houston and cincy .

 

[ClonerJams]

So lets say this scenario plays out (I'm highly skeptical, even though Scheer has proven to be reliable). Is this assuming North Carolina and Virginia go to the Big 10? What happens to Miami and Duke? Does Virginia Tech, Pitt, NC State, and Syracuse go to the Big 12 as well? The ripple effect is massive.