Well blame it on your boy Redding. And it was a pretty benign procedure. He should be fine vs cal baptist
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I appreciate your honesty and the stats you gave. That's what I was asking for, but @Tigerguy_ wants to not give them.
Ultimately,, I may be wrong, but I think if wrestlers from the tops teams are asked why they went there they will say it is due to coaching/facilities. As mentioned I may be wrong.
However, it is proven daily that schools are buying their teams. I.e. #1 QB in the nation going to Nebraska. Guys like Nick Saban and others complaining about NIL cause they know their schools can't keep up. I honestly hate it, and am sorry for ruffling feathers as that was not my intention. I most likely misspoke and do sincerely apologize
Pre NIL, that might have been the case. But some of these guys (especially at smaller programs that may not even have 9.9 scholarships) are going for little athlete $$$. Then when they have success, the big programs come knocking with enough $$$ that cover a full scholarship & money left over.
Olejnik from Northern Ill to Ok State
Truax from Cal Poly to PSU
Messenbrink from Cal Baptist to PSU
Caleb Smith from App State to Nebraska
Maybe you should do the same! My earlier statement was in regards to money and the sports in which bring in money to help fund these athletic departments. I.e. football, basketball, etc
Leave it to wrestlers/wrestling fans to run off fringe people.
They can't run me off that easy. Honestly it is amazing to see the shear number of ISU wrestling fans. I appreciate the back and forth, and know this team is in good hands with the coaches and fans.
Sorry for all the frustrations today!
Sorry for all the frustrations today!
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My take with NIL is that there are a lot of sports fans who truly don't understand the beast that wrestling NIL is. Everyone knows that FB and MBB are the top of the food chain. We know that they are the reason athletic departments exist because of their revenue and we see their NIL deals all over the news. However, wrestling is a lot more under the radar. It's not as flashy as say us reading about some team in Utah getting trucks or something. That's just a random example. There is WAY more money and chaos in wrestling NIL than I think people realize. I think people underestimate the sport just because it's viewed as a "smaller" sport. Not saying that's what you're saying!
Sure, guys are still choosing colleges that fit them best in terms of culture, coaching, and facilities but wrestlers are still going where money talks. This summer alone there were tons of guys moving schools and we knew it wasn't to chase a better culture. I know of wrestlers making more than football starters.
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It's like sticking your hand in a tiger (lol) cage when you get wrestling fans riled up.
How are we running off fringe people by telling them about the wrestling collective if you want to help the wrestling program?
I think what you pointed out at the beginning is what he was getting at. That FB and MBB carry every other sport in the AD. If FB is doing well, it frees up more money for things like, better coaching pay, a new practice facility, entering better meets and things like that.
Unless you are very in tune with ISU wrestling, there is a good chance you have no idea about the cardinal and gold collective. With We Will, donors can feel more connected to the sport of their preference by getting town hall zoom meetings and interviews with coaches and athletes that aren’t available to the general public. Those type of benefits can help the team by getting cash to the wrestler and forming a tighter connection to the sport.
I think we can all agree
NIL is here to stay,
In some ways having athletes compensated is long overdue -
In others its damaging college athletics -
system like most needs to put under a microscope and reworked.
as I have said before it is currently the wild west
really have no answers,
you can't blame a young man or woman for taking a deal or deals that financially will benefit them for years after college has ended. but when you hear that some will lose money heading into the draft of said sport or considering a Rolls Royce - it's time for some checks and balances to be put in place
I believe just like scholarships (9.9 for wrestling was stated ) - the # of $'s one can earn needs to be capped
NIL is here to stay,
In some ways having athletes compensated is long overdue -
In others its damaging college athletics -
system like most needs to put under a microscope and reworked.
as I have said before it is currently the wild west
really have no answers,
you can't blame a young man or woman for taking a deal or deals that financially will benefit them for years after college has ended. but when you hear that some will lose money heading into the draft of said sport or considering a Rolls Royce - it's time for some checks and balances to be put in place
I believe just like scholarships (9.9 for wrestling was stated ) - the # of $'s one can earn needs to be capped
For reference to the C&G collective and how big NIL money is in wrestling....I believe it's fairly well known to those who pay attention and ask questions that DC was offered $300k to leave Ames.
My point being that these kids ain't leaving their schools for "better facilities/coaches/etc"
My point being that these kids ain't leaving their schools for "better facilities/coaches/etc"
I hadn't thought about until just now, but We Will is an approved charity on Benevity, which some companies use for donation matching. Last I checked (just a few weeks ago) C&G is not. So that may be a motivation to "funnel" money through WW.
Sounds like a lot to most of us but I wouldn't sell the legacy he build for that.
